Malcolm X "Set Up Our Own"

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I'm not talkin' about the organization - i'm talkin' about the blueprint for their success.

I'll ask you again:

If that blueprint for success was so good, and anyone could take it and implement it...why haven't they re-implemented it?
How come they're not using their own blueprint?

And who needs a "leader" if you have a good blueprint to follow?

I can't speak on what other people do, most people dont know anything about the NOI simply because they aint messing with that "islam stuff". Assuming you are a man over the age of 21, you should stop worrying about why someone else didnt do something and start focusing on what it is YOU are going to do. If you want to learn more about the NOIs blueprint you could do the research yourself and decide if you want to implement it, but here is the thing though, you arent interested in doing anything you are only interested in debating more justification as to why you yourself isn't going to do something.
 

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I can't speak on what other people do, most people dont know anything about the NOI simply because they aint messing with that "islam stuff". Assuming you are a man over the age of 21, you should stop worrying about why someone else didnt do something and start focusing on what it is YOU are going to do.

I find it funny that you say this, seeing as how you are the person who started this convo with me in this thread.

I wouldn't even be talkin' about this if you hadn't brought it up, so i'm not "worrying" about it at all - that's your trap.


If you want to learn more about the NOIs blueprint you could do the research yourself and decide if you want to implement it, but here is the thing though, you arent interested in doing anything you are only interested in debating more justification as to why you yourself isn't going to do something.

You don't know what in the hell i'm interested in or what i'm doing, Mr. "I can't speak on what other people do".
So shut your face if you don't have the stomach to answer my question.
 

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It sounds good, but our situation is different from everyone elses' in the world.

Do people remember what happened when we were able to "set up our own" successfully in places?

Breh, this is a defeatist mentality and a copout. Which unfortunately is the same mentality a lot of brothers offline have as well.

Yes, we remember what happened, but should that stop us from even trying? What kind of logic is that

Brothers complain about being discriminated against by other races they work for (mainly cacs), yet think doing nothing about it will somehow magically change the situation.

I have a clothing/sneaker shop in my hometown that's doing pretty good. And what's crazy is I don't know ANY other brothers around my age who are even remotely interested in trying to build. I'm not talking about drug dealer types of nikkas, i mean even the dudes who have a degree and a decent/good job. Most brothers aren't trying to start businesses together like that, even the ones who aren't struggling financially.

And all the other stores similar to mine are owned by either cacs, asians, or mexicans

I've honestly had some people giving me way more props than i feel i really deserve, simply for me being a young black man who's actually my own boss. Black men being bosses, instead of some white man's employee forever for some chump change, shouldn't be such a rare thing.
I shouldn't be seen as some sort of rarity for having my own business.

We should have just as many businesses popping as these asians & arabs. We haven't even tamed our OWN blocks, they set up shop there and extract wealth as well. No it won't happen overnight, and no one is saying it will. It would obviously take time to build, but it will never have a chance of happening if everyone has a defeated mentality where they don't even want to try.

Cats run out and buy sneakers every time they get their check, and post it all on IG, but would never think to get together and open up a shoe store. Or store of any kind tbh.

I'd rather we actually TRY than to just sit in the corner & say "b-b-but remember what happened to Black Wallstreet? Why should we try again?"
 
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I find it funny that you say this, seeing as how you are the person who started this convo with me in this thread.

I wouldn't even be talkin' about this if you hadn't brought it up, so i'm not "worrying" about it at all - that's your trap.




You don't know what in the hell i'm interested in or what i'm doing, Mr. "I can't speak on what other people do".
So shut your face if you don't have the stomach to answer my question.

I answered and all you are doing is making excuses on why YOU aint doing something. You asking why other people didnt do something and Im telling you focus on what YOU are going to do. If you were focused on what YOU are going to do you wouldnt be talking that "why we aint doing" defeated negro talk.
 

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Breh, this is a defeatist mentality and a copout. Which unfortunately is the same mentality a lot of brothers offline have as well.

Yes, we remember what happened, but should that stop us from even trying? What kind of logic is that

Brothers complain about being discriminated against by other races they work for (mainly cacs), yet think doing nothing about it will somehow magically change the situation.

I have a clothing/sneaker shop in my hometown that's doing pretty good. And what's crazy is I don't know ANY other brothers around my age who are even remotely interested in trying to build. I'm not talking about drug dealer types of nikkas, i mean even the dudes who have a degree and a decent job. Most brothers aren't trying to start businesses together like that, even the ones who aren't struggling financially.

And all the other stores similar to mine are owned by either cacs, asians, or mexicans

I've honestly had some people giving me way more props than i feel i really deserve, simply for me being a young black man who's actually my own boss. "Young Czar has his own store!!" Black men being bosses, instead of some white man's flunkie forever for some chump change, shouldn't be such a rare thing.

I shouldn't be seen as some sort of rarity, we should have just as many businesses popping as these asians & arabs. We haven't even tamed our OWN blocks, they set up shop there and extract wealth as well. No it won't happen overnight, it would take time to build, but it will never have a chance of happening if everyone has a defeated mentality where they don't even want to try.

Cats run out and buy sneakers every time they get their check, and post it all on IG, but would never think to get together and open up a shop. Of any kind.

I'd rather we actually TRY than to just sit in the corner & say "b-b-but remember what happened to Black Wallstreet? Why should we try again?"

Exactly, at this point dude is going to die a loser so no need in wasting time discussing something constructive when all he and people like him are going to do is talk about how youre going to fail and in the same breath say why "we" aint doing nothing. Lol ish aint getting done because of defeated peons like him.
 

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I answered and all you are doing is making excuses on why YOU aint doing something. You asking why other people didnt do something and Im telling you focus on what YOU are going to do. If you were focused on what YOU are going to do you wouldnt be talking that "why we aint doing" defeated negro talk.

Again - you don't know what I am or aren't "doing", so you can miss me with that foolishness.

And you didn't awnser my question, you essentially said "go do some research and find out"...you had the awnsers for all of this stuff
until that last one. But that's okay - i'm come to expect that from folks.
 

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It sounds good, but our situation is different from everyone elses' in the world.

Do people remember what happened when we were able to "set up our own" successfully in places?


That's the thing they always pumping that black people need to pull up our boot straps, but fail to mention every time we have they burn our boots.

I could imagine them doing drone strikes on us if we were to get shyt popping in this day and age.
 

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That's the thing they always pumping that black people need to pull up our boot straps, but fail to mention every time we have they burn our boots.

I could imagine them doing drone strikes on us if we were to get shyt popping in this day and age.

So this is your excuse of why you have accepted you will die a slave?
 

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Breh, this is a defeatist mentality and a copout. Which unfortunately is the same mentality a lot of brothers offline have as well.

Yes, we remember what happened, but should that stop us from even trying? What kind of logic is that

Brothers complain about being discriminated against by other races they work for (mainly cacs), yet think doing nothing about it will somehow magically change the situation.

I have a clothing/sneaker shop in my hometown that's doing pretty good. And what's crazy is I don't know ANY other brothers around my age who are even remotely interested in trying to build. I'm not talking about drug dealer types of nikkas, i mean even the dudes who have a degree and a decent/good job. Most brothers aren't trying to start businesses together like that, even the ones who aren't struggling financially.

And all the other stores similar to mine are owned by either cacs, asians, or mexicans

I've honestly had some people giving me way more props than i feel i really deserve, simply for me being a young black man who's actually my own boss. Black men being bosses, instead of some white man's employee forever for some chump change, shouldn't be such a rare thing.
I shouldn't be seen as some sort of rarity for having my own business.

We should have just as many businesses popping as these asians & arabs. We haven't even tamed our OWN blocks, they set up shop there and extract wealth as well. No it won't happen overnight, and no one is saying it will. It would obviously take time to build, but it will never have a chance of happening if everyone has a defeated mentality where they don't even want to try.

Cats run out and buy sneakers every time they get their check, and post it all on IG, but would never think to get together and open up a shoe store. Or store of any kind tbh.

I'd rather we actually TRY than to just sit in the corner & say "b-b-but remember what happened to Black Wallstreet? Why should we try again?"

You got me fucced up.

Here's my thing: I think it's great that you started a business, and I wish you the best.
I'm not saying "nobody should start businesses"...i'm saying that it's harder for us to do such things to the point where they thrive
because of factors beyond our control. And if some of those factors beyond our control have their way, they'll never let us get
to the point where we are flourishing. I don't even see how anyone can say that isn't the case.

You say "we haven't even tamed our OWN blocks"...we don't have any blocks!!
 

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You can either choose to die trying something or sit and give reasons why you won't do anything and still die. Either way you're going to die and have to deal with your kids,wife,family looking you in the face and asking you "What did you do for us", you have to live with that not me, I`m not trying to convince you to do anything, so do what you want.

:lawd: Exactly
 

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There's a difference in how it's said though. Malcolm is saying fukk whites and to love & respect yourself, too many on the coli want to change in hopes of gaining white acceptance.

True. Yea I feel ya. Personally, what I mean is moreso changing the way we view and treat ourselves and each other. We need a greater sense of racial pride which will naturally bring about more unity and a "black first" mentality. A tactic of white supremacy is to make us hate ourselves and each other. That must be undone.
 

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True. Yea I feel ya. Personally, what I mean is moreso changing the way we view and treat ourselves and each other. We need a greater sense of racial pride which will naturally bring about more unity and a "black first" mentality. A tactic of white supremacy is to make us hate ourselves and each other. That must be undone.
Exactly, We need to do better for ourselves and no one else.
 
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