Making Melo a lifer and waving at Felton in Rikers: Knicks offseason thread

[23Barrettcity]

FOH here the Knicks would be waiting for the Wiz/Bulls series



That's if Melo didn't have a bum shoulder

No we wouldn't . Unless he benched Felton and Murray was lighting them up other than that we'd be. Cooked

 

[Victim of Racism]

He can still go that route after next season, we all know we're not gonna see the same team we saw this season going into next, so this gives Melo the chance to basically say Phil you have this season to show and prove...If he not digging the direction Phil going he can leave or hear out whatever another team talking, If he truly serious about winning a ship as a Knicks this would be the ideal situation

I didn't know this thread was stilling going on. How is this contractually possible? I don't see how he gets to become a free agent whenever he wants, as opposed to when the contract he signed dictates. I also don't see how what is available to him now will be available later. I would think teams will have moved on and his choices won't be the same.

 

[JMurder]

point guard play might excuse why the games have looked so close...but if the Pacers lose to the Hawks it's gotta be more than that and I still feel this Knicks team was better than that injured Hawks team

 

[Liquid]

point guard play might excuse why the games have looked so close...but if the Pacers lose to the Hawks it's gotta be more than that and I still feel this Knicks team was better than that injured Hawks team

I think we have a better player in Melo, but the Knicks don't play that collectively and thats mostly due to PG play.

I know I have defended Lin even when he has played like ass in Houston, but if the knicks had Lin or any competent PG we WOULD be a better squad. Unfortunately we don't...we have Raymond Felton.

It's impossible to win consistently without a high IQ, patient and in shape PG. I bet Phil gets a PG that people don't really respect, but has a high basketball IQ and the team wins 50 games next season.

 

[Hawaiian Punch]

I didn't know this thread was stilling going on.

This must be your first offseason thread. Trust me when I say this thread will be poppin until
October.

 

[Rev]

point guard play might excuse why the games have looked so close...but if the Pacers lose to the Hawks it's gotta be more than that and I still feel this Knicks team was better than that injured Hawks team

i agree on it being more than PG play, but i think Jeff Teague starting off the way he did opened it up for them & i'm not sure the Knicks would've been able to take advantage like that. Pacers love playing us too, and they would've stuck to their style against us as opposed to trying to adjust to the Hawks like they've done.

 

[Wargames]

I do think Tyson could be feasting with Hibbert looking like trash out there but then again Tyson only feast if somebody alley's him the ball. the Hawks are eating because Teague has the mismatch against Hill and Hibbert isn't a factor.

Idk if the knicks win under that scenario, plus Vogel is being out coached somewhat in this series, Woodson stayed getting played by Vogel (its hilarious that neither gives Copeland any play).

At least we get to enjoy the pacers getting played and their fan base realizing the gave 30 million to a trash Center and a guy who at best is a number two on a championship team but more realistically is a great roleplayer in Paul George.

 

[GatorStaceyAdams]

I think we have a better player in Melo, but the Knicks don't play that collectively and thats mostly due to PG play.

I know I have defended Lin even when he has played like ass in Houston, but if the knicks had Lin or any competent PG we WOULD be a better squad. Unfortunately we don't...we have Raymond Felton.

It's impossible to win consistently without a high IQ, patient and in shape PG. I bet Phil gets a PG that people don't really respect, but has a high basketball IQ and the team wins 50 games next season.

Breh, I just cant


Felton aint no all star, but he has much more consistent handles and has a far higher Bball IQ than Lin.

Not to mention Felton costs the knicks only 30% of what Lin would have made here

 

[Liquid]

Breh, I just cant


Felton aint no all star, but he has much more consistent handles and has a far higher Bball IQ than Lin.

Not to mention Felton costs the knicks only 30% of what Lin would have made here

Felton is not better than Jeremy Lin

 

[Victim of Racism]

I think Vazquez would be a good fit if they use the triangle and are able to dump Felton. Phil loves those big PGs.

He's a good playmaker (like Felton) but a horrid defender (like Felton but doesn't have the height excuse that Felton has)............................................................but he ain't goin' to jail.

 

[Victim of Racism]

This must be your first offseason thread. Trust me when I say this thread will be poppin until
October.

I didn't mean it like that. I meant, I thought there was a intermission until another issue comes up because I thought these points had been discussed enough.

 

[GatorStaceyAdams]

Felton is not better than Jeremy Lin

Ask yourself this (considering you've watched Lin's play as of late):

1.) Lin's turnovers
2.) Low basketball IQ
3.) Just as poor a defemder

Although he is a slightly better shooter (44% vs. 40%). Is that worth 1mm more than Felton this year? Maybe, you say?


Is that worth 11mm more than Felton next year?

 

[Liquid]

Ask yourself this (considering you've watched Lin's play as of late):

1.) Lin's turnovers
2.) Low basketball IQ
3.) Just as poor a defemder

Although he is a slightly better shooter (44% vs. 40%). Is that worth 1mm more than Felton this year? Maybe, you say?


Is that worth 11mm more than Felton next year?

I am not saying its worth more than 11mm more than Felton.

What I am telling you is that Lin is a better PG than Felton. I have no doubt about that in my mind. The ball movement is nowhere near as good as when Lin was running the show. I have posted video proof about this. Lin is a much better distributor AND shooter than Felton.

I hope Jackson starts with a new PG immediately.

 

[Wargames]

Part of Linsanity was D'antoni's system. I think Lin would be even worse in NY because at least Felton didn't turn the ball over much. Lin had issues getting across half court (except in A fast transition) in D'antoni's system. Under Woodson he would have to play off ball until the Knicks got to half court set. Ironically enough if Lin played Defense I would think her would be a great piece for the triangle.

 

[JerseyFinest!]

I didn't know this thread was stilling going on. How is this contractually possible? I don't see how he gets to become a free agent whenever he wants, as opposed to when the contract he signed dictates. I also don't see how what is available to him now will be available later. I would think teams will have moved on and his choices won't be the same.

He has the option this off-season to either opt in to the last year of his current deal or opt out, which he indicated since the beginning of the season he would, and from the looks of things the market is not that big for Melo this off-season, we have the Bulls, Rockets outside of the Knicks the Clippers option is dead and so is the Lakers with it coming out this week Dantoni is most likely coming back. Let's be 100 it's all about being courted by other teams hence the Diva comment I made, and you can't even say "well look at the season the Team had" because he said in October he was opting out his last year