Majid Jordan reveals OVO's secrets on Hot 97(How they find writers,Writing Concentration Camps,etc.)

[onelastdeath]

You say he doesn't know how to sing but people LOVE his singing. Same way people LOVE his rap or the way he delivers raps if you wanna go for the he doesn't write angle.

His whole musical style is very easy on the ear and catchy. At the very least even if you hate him and don't think he writes it's undeniable that niqqa has the Midas touch. I seen too many people of all ages react to his music (including myself ) to think otherwise.

At the end of the day all this bullshyt can be talked but as long as people connect with the music what can you say really? that you don't like him? Ok then move on and talk about who you like because this niqqa isn't going anywhere as long as he delivers that product

I think you are mistaken there you deepthroat specialist. No one here hates Drake, no one here knows the man to "hate him". People here are just spitting facts. Now while no one here hates him, there are people here, men specifically, who love him. You guys love this man. I wish you would just admit that, instead of moving goalposts and creating things that aren't there. Y'all don't love his singing. Y'all love his singing when it's fixed and edited. So much to the point that it's not even his voice.

Example
Would you listen to his music if he sounded like this all the time?


Hell no. So you don't love his singing. You love his edited, Tampered with singing. I listen to Marvin Gaye live albums because I love his singing.

That's one.

Second of all. He can't rap. The same way people who ride training wheels, never walk around saying that they know how to ride a bike. He can't rap. He can emulate, well. And I'll give him that. He can stay inside the lines and color, but he can't draw the picture.

Third of all, you don't love his music. You love other people's music. You don't love Hold On We're going home, you love Majid Jordan. The ideas, the feelings, the emotions don't belong to him. They belong to other people.

So that begs the question. If he doesn't write it, can't sing it, doesn't produce it, then what is it that you love? It's him. As a vessel. You love Drake. Just say that though. The same way women love him. If you're supporting Drake right now, then you're no different than a bielieber or whatever the hell they're called. You're just in it for the face.

There nothing bullshyt about appreciating artistic integrity. Nothing at all. It's a thing, and I'm not really into brands. I do love to connect with music. Just like I do with all art forms that I take part in supporting.

Especially Hip Hop, because it's the genre that most AA's have created and grown with. So we respect it more than anyone else.

I like knowing my favorite authors actually wrote their words.
My favorite directors were on set everyday forming their visions.
My favorite producers out the time in the make sure every kick and snare was on time.
Because that's what being human is all about. Individuality, and the fact that no one can do you, the way that you can.

Drake just isn't that.

It's really as simple as that.

I lost for writing this out

Last post in this thread though

 

[Ronnie Lott]

It's old news that he gets people to write songs though. You didn't know Majid Jordan wrote HOWGH? Kanye wrote Find your love. Weeknd wrote shot for me. When it comes to the singing melodic shyt it is old news Drake like most RnB niqqas uses writers

I talk about artists who's music I fukk wither for the most part on here. It just confuses me that a lot of people dedicate a majority of their posts to an artist they DO NOT fukk with. Why not shine light on who you fukk with? If Drake is a more interesting topic then that's cool. I just don't get it. You won't stop people enjoying his music, you just air your frustrations while dude keeps winning and the artists you fukk with get less attention than dude

more dikkriding

That argument that you posed is so fukkin lame What you're basically saying is "leave drake alone and don't criticize him"

I as well as others post music and discuss different artist in The Booth every single day. So the notion of you saying that we "don't shine light on other artists" is false

Nobody in this thread has tried to convince anyone to not listen to Drakes music. So again, you're spewing bullshyt

Again, do yo work for OVO?

 

[Vilhena]

more dikkriding

That argument that you posed is so fukkin lame What you're basically saying is "leave drake alone and don't criticize him"

I as well as others post music and discuss different artist in The Booth every single day. So the notion of you saying that we "don't shine light on other artists" is false

Nobody in this thread has tried to convince anyone to not listen to Drakes music. So again, you're spewing bullshyt

Again, do yo work for OVO?

Just a fakkit from London who wishes he was from Toronto. All I see is Drake and Weeknd threads. The stanning is unhealthy for a nikka across the pond.

 

[hex]

You say he doesn't know how to sing but people LOVE his singing. Same way people LOVE his rap or the way he delivers raps if you wanna go for the he doesn't write angle.

His whole musical style is very easy on the ear and catchy. At the very least even if you hate him and don't think he writes it's undeniable that niqqa has the Midas touch. I seen too many people of all ages react to his music (including myself ) to think otherwise.

At the end of the day all this bullshyt can be talked but as long as people connect with the music what can you say really? that you don't like him? Ok then move on and talk about who you like because this niqqa isn't going anywhere as long as he delivers that product

I don't care what people like, I'm a grown ass man.

Miley Cyrus can't sing either, and she has millions of fans. Am I supposed to blindly jock anything that's popular?

I don't get you dudes.

I'm not trying to change anybody's minds with my posts....it's happening totally independent of anything I'm saying. @biscuitsnbangers was a die hard Drake fan last summer, now she's not.

The shyt that got me is how does a white girl, Drake's bread and butter, wise up to what's going on....but grown ass men are still in here defending him tooth and nail?

Lastly, if you don't understand the point of the convo, or think it's stupid, or a waste of time....you can bow gracefully out of the thread and go enjoy some Drake. I guarantee nobody from The Coli will come to your crib talking about "he's a fraud".

But you can't do that, because you have an overwhelming urge to defend him. Which is cool....but you fools don't want a counter point. You just want people to praise him. If enjoying his music was enough we'd have nothing to talk about.

Fred.

 

[spliz]

As someone who has produced records and gotten emails from rappers when you send them a beat and they say "i need a full song" or "where is the hook". Its the same. Alotta labels sign producers and singers. You then spend the first part of your career making records for other artists and helping grow/shape their sounds, in the end you've given them your sound and you get shelved. I knon this as I've gone through it. That makebelieve world where this does not happen, doesn't exist often.. Once you sign to a major and they know how they want to market you and make you sound its writing camps and ghost producers until you make the record they are happy with, as most artists sign with NO LEVERAGE aka your opinion dont mean shyt and they just want you to make the music they want.

Again, I say this as someone whose put the work in and seen it go down. Any anytime you speak on the real, they be tracing your IP through these forums and have your phone blowin up.

"I need a hook" def ain't the same as getting a reference track. shyt everyone knows these producers will give direction and the hook and the bridge n shyt like that. That's not the issue. Which is why Jay had no problem showing the full process of making The Black Album. As a cat who had dealings in the industry and relationships with some of these rappers u not gonna tell me that every rapper has writing concentration camps. I know first hand that aint true. Maybe wit some of these new nikkas who don't give a fukk. But not every rapper. What WILL happen is if the label really wants u to have a hit they will send u the shell of a song. With beat. Hook. All that. Similar to the Lupe Fiasco, B.O.B Nothing on You situation. .

 

[WickedGames]

This is the most buzzin Majid Jordan topic ever coincidentally

Wipe the cum off ya face man, anytime I see you post you got Drakes name all up in it. smh

i like Drake music and I generally post about artists I like. What's your excuse? I can show you threads I've made on multiple a artists I fukk with.

 

[WickedGames]

I don't care what people like, I'm a grown ass man.

Miley Cyrus can't sing either, and she has millions of fans. Am I supposedly to blindly jock anything that's popular?

I don't get you dudes.

I'm not trying to change anybody's minds with my posts....it's happening totally independent of anything I'm saying. @biscuitsnbangers was a die hard Drake fan last summer, now she's not.

The shyt that got me is how does a white girl, Drake's bread and butter, wise up to what's going on....but grown ass men are still in here defending him tooth and nail?

Lastly, if you don't understand the point of the convo, or think it's stupid, or a waste of time....you can bow gracefully out of the thread and go enjoy some Drake. I guarantee nobody from The Coli will come to your crib talking about "he's a fraud".

But you can't do that, because you have an overwhelming urge to defend him. Which is cool....but you fools don't want a counter point. You just want people to praise him. If enjoying his music was enough we'd have nothing to talk about.

Fred.

I never seen anybody in my life dancing to mylie. I'm talking about people in the culture.

If you feel the best use of your posting time is Drake talk that's cool with me, cook I have no idea what you like.. All I know is you hate Drake

 

[onelastdeath]

I'm talking about people in the culture.

Lowkey,one of the worst things that ever happen to Hip Hop was having it go international. nikkas in Canada, and London like @WickedGames in here talking about "the culture"

Don't respect the rules, don't know shyt about it, br talking about "the culture"

 

[Grano-Grano]

Drake stans are emotional unstable. They are mostly cacs, suburbia "safe" nikkas, and women. They derive safety and acceptance from one of their ilk. Think about every Drake stans in this thread, its like you diss their bf, they can't separate emotional fondness for this nikka without giving you irrational excuses for this nikka. It's scary. It's endemic of how society is slowly being feminized, RNS. Hip Hop is/was built on honesty in your story, your sound, and your environment. I gave Drake honesty in his environment because no matter how hard he tries to hide his upbringing, he can't hide his suburban uppity traits. No matter how much you lames hate Jigga, at least my nikka REALLY was about everything he rapped about unlike this fufu.

 

[Vilhena]

This is the most buzzin Majid Jordan topic ever coincidentally

i like Drake music and I generally post about artists I like. What's your excuse? I can show you threads I've made on multiple a artists I fukk with.

It's the lengths you go to defend him is..

I like Drakes music too, just like Dr. Dres and Puffy. They all the same too dnt you agree?

 

[blackslash]

I don't care what people like, I'm a grown ass man.

Miley Cyrus can't sing either, and she has millions of fans. Am I supposedly to blindly jock anything that's popular?

I don't get you dudes.

I'm not trying to change anybody's minds with my posts....it's happening totally independent of anything I'm saying. @biscuitsnbangers was a die hard Drake fan last summer, now she's not.

The shyt that got me is how does a white girl, Drake's bread and butter, wise up to what's going on....but grown ass men are still in here defending him tooth and nail?

Lastly, if you don't understand the point of the convo, or think it's stupid, or a waste of time....you can bow gracefully out of the thread and go enjoy some Drake. I guarantee nobody from The Coli will come to your crib talking about "he's a fraud".

But you can't do that, because you have an overwhelming urge to defend him. Which is cool....but you fools don't want a counter point. You just want people to praise him. If enjoying his music was enough we'd have nothing to talk about.

Fred.

idk Miley got the vocals my g

 

[blackslash]

Drake stans are emotional unstable. They are mostly cacs, suburbia "safe" nikkas, and women. They derive safety and acceptance from one of their ilk. Think about every Drake stans in this thread, its like you diss their bf, they can't separate emotional fondness for this nikka without giving you irrational excuses for this nikka. It's scary. It's endemic of how society is slowly being feminized, RNS. Hip Hop is/was built on honesty in your story, your sound, and your environment. I gave Drake honesty in his environment because no matter how hard he tries to hide his upbringing, he can't hide his suburban uppity traits. No matter how much you lames hate Jigga, at least my nikka REALLY was about everything he rapped about unlike this fufu.

Pac stans did the same in the 90's

They dont hear me tho

 

[DirtyMoney]

A lot of these rappers are "performers" so when you expect them to write their entire album and have a say in it, its like expecting an actor to write the script just because they act in the movie. What i am trying to say is that their only obligation is to perform the material given to them.

"I need a hook" def ain't the same as getting a reference track. shyt everyone knows these producers will give direction and the hook and the bridge n shyt like that. That's not the issue. Which is why Jay had no problem showing the full process of making The Black Album. As a cat who had dealings in the industry and relationships with some of these rappers u not gonna tell me that every rapper has writing concentration camps. I know first hand that aint true. Maybe wit some of these new nikkas who don't give a fukk. But not every rapper. What WILL happen is if the label really wants u to have a hit they will send u the shell of a song. With beat. Hook. All that. Similar to the Lupe Fiasco, B.O.B Nothing on You situation. .

Not every rapper has concentration camps but quite a few do. This is for major artists.
Smalltime rappers do not as much. I mean i've had sessions where all types of artists that are not poppin anymore come through and the label doesnt care about them so the label throws no resources behind them.

 

[Grano-Grano]

Pac stans did the same in the 90's

They dont hear me tho

Pac gets a G pass from me fam. At least my nikka grew up in the struggle with a crackhead for a moms.

 

[WickedGames]

I think you are mistaken there you deepthroat specialist. No one here hates Drake, no one here knows the man to "hate him". People here are just spitting facts. Now while no one here hates him, there are people here, men specifically, who love him. You guys love this man. I wish you would just admit that, instead of moving goalposts and creating things that aren't there. Y'all don't love his singing. Y'all love his singing when it's fixed and edited. So much to the point that it's not even his voice.

Example
Would you listen to his music if he sounded like this all the time?


Hell no. So you don't love his singing. You love his edited, Tampered with singing. I listen to Marvin Gaye live albums because I love his singing.

That's one.

Second of all. He can't rap. The same way people who ride training wheels, never walk around saying that they know how to ride a bike. He can't rap. He can emulate, well. And I'll give him that. He can stay inside the lines and color, but he can't draw the picture.

Third of all, you don't love his music. You love other people's music. You don't love Hold On We're going home, you love Majid Jordan. The ideas, the feelings, the emotions don't belong to him. They belong to other people.

So that begs the question. If he doesn't write it, can't sing it, doesn't produce it, then what is it that you love? It's him. As a vessel. You love Drake. Just say that though. The same way women love him. If you're supporting Drake right now, then you're no different than a bielieber or whatever the hell they're called. You're just in it for the face.

There nothing bullshyt about appreciating artistic integrity. Nothing at all. It's a thing, and I'm not really into brands. I do love to connect with music. Just like I do with all art forms that I take part in supporting.

Especially Hip Hop, because it's the genre that most AA's have created and grown with. So we respect it more than anyone else.

I like knowing my favorite authors actually wrote their words.
My favorite directors were on set everyday forming their visions.
My favorite producers out the time in the make sure every kick and snare was on time.
Because that's what being human is all about. Individuality, and the fact that no one can do you, the way that you can.

Drake just isn't that.

It's really as simple as that.

I lost for writing this out

Last post in this thread though

This post is just stupid after a skim but on the point of live singing ...

PND is one of my favourite RNB singers right now and he sounds horrible live (seen him twice) so I don't know what you're point is about the love shyt. Weeknd was the same but he's improved a lot. Frank ocean sounds pretty weak live. I've seen Drake live and his singing live was alright.

I appreciate a writer too.. This is why I appreciate somebody like Kendrick to a different level but that doesn't mean I can't appreciate Drake talent and delivering of enjoyable product. Same way I know Kanye ain't wrote every rap but I still think he's an amazing rapper, producer and entertainer.

I like the music. Until that changes I fukk with Drake. Shyt is that simple. He ain't in my top 5 lyricist of all time but I know he delivers music I like. Online posters who only post about how much they hate drake won't change that. When I'm in a party I'm still doing my dances fam. Sorry