Mad Men: Season 7 (Part 2) 'The End of an Era' - April 5th

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yea and that's now... imagine in 70s when divorce and having kids out of wedlock got you shunned. bytches was probably hiding all sorts of kids... getting abortions in back alleys.. shyt peggy gave hers away for real
First season, Betty and her girls didn't even want to talk to Glen's mom because she was divorced:russ:
 

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She was being sarcastic, I'm surprised how many people's heads online that it went over

Semi-related: Sepinwall's reviews have been trash all season. I'm heated I just got hip to AVclub and Vulture.com and there's only a few episodes left :mjcry:
What makes you think she was being sarcastic? I took the previous scene of her yelling "you're ruining my life" being her pissed that the dude she met was kicking her to the curb due to her having kids. To me her shipping the kid off to boarding school would give her the life she pictures for herself back.

I mean shyt this is the same woman that turned on Draper who was the only dude who had her back and wasn't down to whore her out just so she could get paid, and endured a rape and stayed with dude in chase of the fairy tale lifestyle of being married to a man with stature. Shipping a kid off wouldn't be beneath her.
 

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What makes you think she was being sarcastic? I took the previous scene of her yelling "you're ruining my life" being her pissed that the dude she met was kicking her to the curb due to her having kids. To me her shipping the kid off to boarding school would give her the life she pictures for herself back.

I mean shyt this is the same woman that turned on Draper who was the only dude who had her back and wasn't down to whore her out just so she could get paid, and endured a rape and stayed with dude in chase of the fairy tale lifestyle of being married to a man with stature. Shipping a kid off wouldn't be beneath her.
nah she wasn't joking at all... show moves so slow, and they never really focus in on shyt like that... so you forget this woman took a rape just to try and get a ring... she is not a good mom at all... i think we see her interact with her kid maybe 5 times ever
 

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what was the name of this episode 'Draper meets Ether' ?

i mean come on Donny !!!

peggy checked
frasier's kid checked
pornstar rodge checked
sales woman checked
YA OWN SEED checked

there is no way in hell this show can end good for Mr. Whitman
at this point i think i'd like for him to jump out the window like it's been presented for every episode from the get go.

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What makes you think she was being sarcastic? I took the previous scene of her yelling "you're ruining my life" being her pissed that the dude she met was kicking her to the curb due to her having kids. To me her shipping the kid off to boarding school would give her the life she pictures for herself back.

I mean shyt this is the same woman that turned on Draper who was the only dude who had her back and wasn't down to whore her out just so she could get paid, and endured a rape and stayed with dude in chase of the fairy tale lifestyle of being married to a man with stature. Shipping a kid off wouldn't be beneath her.

That whole interaction suggested she was being sarcastic.

*Dude pops up at her office unexpectedly with flowers*

Joan: I thought about it, and I'm going to send my son away so he won't be a nuisance for you to deal with

Dude: :whoa: I didn't ask you do that :beli:

Joan: yes you did :usure:

Dude: look, I'm sorry, I'm trying to be less rigid, so although this wasn't in my plans, because rigidity makes you old.

Joan: I also live with my mom's :usure:

Dude: idc, I want all of you in my life :blessed:

She's clearly throwing his objections in his face. She lied about not having a son in LA because she was content on letting it be a west coast fling. He showed up in N.Y. on his own accord, to get surprise. While she was upset on the burden her son was having on her social life, and sending him away is certainly not beneath her, they never show her actually preparing or thinking about doing that. She didn't start looking at boarding school brochures or asking someone in the office about boarding school.

Also, her son is, what 4 years old? Not many, if any, boarding schools start that young. She said it so bluntly like that cuz any sane person would know it was too ridiculous to be serious.
 

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That whole interaction suggested she was being sarcastic.

*Dude pops up at her office unexpectedly with flowers*

Joan: I thought about it, and I'm going to send my son away so he won't be a nuisance for you to deal with

Dude: :whoa: I didn't ask you do that :beli:

Joan: yes you did :usure:

Dude: look, I'm sorry, I'm trying to be less rigid, so although this wasn't in my plans, because rigidity makes you old.

Joan: I also live with my mom's :usure:

Dude: idc, I want all of you in my life :blessed:

She's clearly throwing his objections in his face. She lied about not having a son in LA because she was content on letting it be a west coast fling. He showed up in N.Y. on his own accord, to get surprise. While she was upset on the burden her son was having on her social life, and sending him away is certainly not beneath her, they never show her actually preparing or thinking about doing that. She didn't start looking at boarding school brochures or asking someone in the office about boarding school.

Also, her son is, what 4 years old? Not many, if any, boarding schools start that young. She said it so bluntly like that cuz any sane person would know it was too ridiculous to be serious.
damn you're absolutely right

the director agrees


Moving on to Joan. Why did she lie about not having a son when she first met Richard?

I think the big thing with the lie was it had to be as simple as it could be. She had to decide she was telling him it and I’m just going to keep talking. She doesn’t labor over it. “We’re just having this fling, and I’m just going to enjoy it. I know if I say it, after everything he just said, it would change it.” I love that later, when Richard says, this could be potentially more than just a fling, he’s right. Christina is such a lovely actress and she and Bruce created a wonderful chemistry that was sexy, playful right from the start. It’s not easy to create that kind of connection so quickly. Christina sparkles in so many great moments in this episode. It’s a much more positive storyline for Joan than we’ve seen in a while, which is nice.

Yet she throws back at the babysitter — and essentially her son — that line, “You’re ruining my life.”

I don’t think it’s anything more than an emotional outburst that comes out in the moment. I love when she talks to Richard, she’s like” OK, then I’ll give up my son.” Either you’re on board or you’re not. She was being totally sarcastic.
 

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She was being sarcastic, I'm surprised how many people's heads online that it went over

Semi-related: Sepinwall's reviews have been trash all season. I'm heated I just got hip to AVclub and Vulture.com and there's only a few episodes left :mjcry:

Been feasting off of avclub's tv coverage for going on 6 years now. They got every show covered :wow:
 

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That glen kid is a terrible actor, when someone in this thread mentioned it was the creators son everything made sense.


Joan is so goddamn unlikeable but those titties though.

:mjcry: how much ether is don going to have to keep taking.
 

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That glen kid is a terrible actor, when someone in this thread mentioned it was the creators son everything made sense.


Joan is so goddamn unlikeable but those titties though.

:mjcry: how much ether is don going to have to keep taking.
for 4 more episodes until his death (which will be the ultimate ether) :mjcry:
 
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