Lyor Cohen on The Breakfast Club: Talks Migos Issues with 300 Ent, Kanye West + more!

[lib123]

Lyor has one of those 60s-70s wealthy hippie quasi-revolutionary backgrounds.

Born in the US, but spent years on a kibbutz in Israel before moving back to LA.

His parents were liberal idealist Jews. The types that believed it was possible to coexist peacefully with Palestinians, didn't take the religion too seriously, avoided IDF service at all costs, etc. These types were very uncomfortable with capitalism - they were usually closet Marxists, if not outright Communists (even though they were usually wealthy...I know, it makes no sense, but nothing from the 60s makes much sense). Not too many of them left these days, but they existed back then.

Father was a child psychiatrist, mother was an heiress, hippie & huge supporter of the arts.

His older brother taught math & shop class at an all-black public school in South Central in the 70s. He was one of those idealistic liberal Jewish kids from a wealthy family. Very common at the time. That's how Lyor got introduced to black music - his brother would support his students by going to their weekend basketball games, and they'd always have live music from local artists at halftime. Lyor tagged along.

On the one hand, I'm like clearly this dude has a real appreciation and affection for black music. But on the other hand, so many black artists have called him out for being a fukking snake...

I always wonder if what makes him so polarizing is that his background makes it tough for artists to discern his intentions compared to the intentions of other white/Jewish executives. The artists see someone who seems to actually give a shyt and understand what they do - rare for record execs - and they have all sorts of interesting conversations and interactions with him. They develop a genuine relationship, and start to see him as being "on their side." But then, he turns around and snakes them the way any other record exec would - and the artists aren't prepared for it at all because their previously established relationship led them to put their trust in him. Whereas with the standard record exec, artists (if they're well-advised!) have their guard up at all times - they know they're dealing with a snake off rip, and that their value to that exec only goes as far as their ability to move units.

Where did you learn about his family background?

 

[Donald J Trump]

No he wasn’t. Listen again. He said you can’t have a cup in front of me.... BECAUSE I will tell you you’re a junkie

He didn’t say he’d get rid of the cup or make you throw it out or drop you from the label or remove you from a tour. He’s simply saying he’s gonna mention you’re fukking up, but also do his job and make money for the company.

So if you are a goddamn drug addict, you should not be looking at your boss, to be the one to have an intervention with you. He’s there to make money off you, period. The moment you can’t make any, you finished.


At no time am I saluting him for being this way. Cold world. Heartless.

But I’m also not going to blame him, when he tells you straight up, that’s exactly what you are to him. There should be zero confusion on y’all relationship. So I don’t want to hear crying about how he’s so bad, when you knowingly made a deal with the devil


It’s like that same shyt posted above. Same blaming Lyor for doing what Lyor is supposed to do. He’s with def jam. His job would be to steal jay z away. That’s literally his job. Of course he’s gonna float the offers out there to jay.

Like he said again... if they was as tight as dame THOUGHT they were, then he shouldn’t have been able to do it so easily. So was he supposed to say fukk my job, let jay z go to Epic, so Dame can believe in me?

Y’all gonna get hurt in this business world. “All business, never personal”. It’s cut throat out there. Get money or stay home

these nikkas have no comprehension
so
i didnt feel like breaking it down

 

[panopticon]

Where did you learn about his family background?

Been following this dude for a while. Always found him fascinating.

He's done interviews for profile pieces of varying depth over the years for different publications:

The Story of Lyor Cohen: Little Lan$ky and the Big Check – Rolling Stone

Lyor Cohen maker of stars - Jewish Business News

Lyor’s Got Game

Lyor Cohen: 'Steve Jobs was a seductive and profound bully'

Lyor Cohen: 'I've always had the gift of being self-assured.' - Music Business Worldwide

Music Chambers

 

[Hammer]

classic interview. Lyor a real boss

 

[Benefited]

This video just reinforces the point of blacks being uneducated. Lyor Cohen talks out of both sides of his mouth in this video, throws in some colloquialisms and slang, and people lap this shyt up. He consistently contradicts himself in the same damn breath. Looking at that comments section is embarrassing. Don't even need to be on some Coli militant shyt to see that.

That's the fukking devil.

When your white you don't have to be smart.
nikkas have been brainwashed to feel the white man knows what the hell he is talking about automatically
They wanted to get Jay away from Dame so bad

 

[kareem929]

Anybody notice how when he mentions the streaming sites with subscriptions he names all of them except Tidal.

I’ve noticed that when they compare any of the streaming sites they almost NEVER mention Tidal.

 

[Benefited]

I forget alotta people weren't around to follow major lable execs in the 90s &00s to see their treachery. Read the top right of this Rocafella cover story in The Source from 2002.

When I read that after seeing Backstage, I knew Lyor had already gotten to Jay and the writing was on the wall. Dame has been consistent in his message from the jump and been proven right.

These YT execs are always gonna silence any Black that starts to preach too much Black independence & ownership and try their best to make them look "crazy." They called Muhammad Ali crazy back in the day but now we see he was right.

Damn,so they had been trying to give Jay the majority of Rocafella,and get rid of Dame and Biggs

 

[kareem929]

 

[Ricky Fontaine]

Lol did y’all see the same interview as me?

That man literally said NOTHING positive at all and you got people in here calling him a genius.

Very strange...

 

[Nature's Fury]

Anybody notice how when he mentions the streaming sites with subscriptions he names all of them except Tidal.

I’ve noticed that when they compare any of the streaming sites they almost NEVER mention Tidal.

i fukk with Tidal and have PAID for a subscription for years, but it really is a little fish in a big pond...it has around 5 million subscribers, while the likes of Spotify and Apple have 157 and 50 MILLION respectively...sucks, cause Tidal really is better, but they're probably gonna end up selling into another service or company...that Hi-Fi ability is an asset...

 

[Tupac in a Business Suit]

Lol did y’all see the same interview as me?

That man literally said NOTHING positive at all and you got people in here calling him a genius.

Very strange...

I think people are praising his honesty rather than the positivity in his message. Some of us need to learn how to eat the fish and spit the bones out. Just because I don’t like the persons message doesn’t mean he is invalid or doesn’t merit my attention to listen.

I ask you this question, you didn’t think it was positive for him to question the strength and health of Dame and Jays relationship if an outsider like him could come through and tear it apart?

After seeing this interview, southern rap impresarios like P, Slim and Baby as well and Prince and Suge are the true kings of the business.

 

[Ricky Fontaine]

I think people are praising his honesty rather than the positivity in his message. Some of us need to learn how to eat the fish and spit the bones out. Just because I don’t like the persons message doesn’t mean he is invalid or doesn’t merit my attention to listen.

I ask you this question, you didn’t think it was positive for him to question the strength and health of Dame and Jays relationship if an outsider like him could come through and tear it apart?

After seeing this interview, southern rap impresarios like P, Slim and Baby as well and Prince and Suge are the true kings of the business.

I don’t think he was being honest at all. It sounded like he was spinning a narrative with bits and pieces of the truth in it.

 

[Mr Uncle Leroy]

I'm speaking in regards to how white society does business with black people, where textbook business motivations (profit motive) aren't the only motivators . Collectively, American white society (not necessarily every individual white person) measures its success by their tangible wealth as well as their level of success relative to black people. Hence studies showing companies passing on black applicants with the exact same credentials as white counterparts.

If the sole focus was profit, why would they be doing that? Because it hurts their wealth in the form of the psychological ego boost from white supremacy. My point is guys like Lyor feel threatened when black people generate wealth independently.

White boys are snakes when it comes to maintaining the illusion of status quo and mistreatments of blacks artists and black in America. Jew or American born, they make it seem like they are genuinely interested in your wellbeing. However they don't care when they think they cant turn a profit from you. It is dangerous to do business with those type of racists. Black men and black women while established and new to some business, most have a platform where artists can benefit from solid values, income streams and great business partnership. Be it black execs or white execs or azn execs. Ultimately it must start within black execs. It is the defacto standard. The coldness of other execs should not be mirrored in community that think white boys ice cold. There has to be new age men that mingle, associate and dominate in any business they want to. Especially globally. White boys appear to be given some pass, and yet when it comes to succession planning some dont know how to use it and more often than not, the transition process is largely negative. Because the infrastructure was not properly built. Lyor causing the split betwen Dame and Jay. Left Dame with seeking alternatives and midlife crisis. Had there been more infrastructure. There would be lateral and parallel options for Dame.

White dont measure their wealth compared to blacks they do so compared to whites. Media stats showing disparaging percentages in racial comparisons are reflections of racism, bias, segregation, hate and discrimination. You dont compare a white family in 1900s when most blacks were enslaved and Americans had "laws" and "value system" to hold blacks down and push whites forward. That is not a fair comparison in wealth. Until America and Europe and c00ns correct the mistakes that America has done to blacks. There are no true wealth comparison. Individuals and communities across racial lines help or gain something from helping. However for every successful athletes the team owner is rich. Passing other applicants is not a sign of wealth, it is a sign of racial discrimination. Bias that exist and reflection that white people practice racism and racism and practice of racism has to be stopped. White are giving unfair advantages and that is not an equal playing field. And the unfair advantage that favor white boys and girls to mistreat brown or red hues must be stopped.

 

[lib123]

White boys are snakes when it comes to maintaining the illusion of status quo and mistreatments of blacks artists and black in America. Jew or American born, they make it seem like they are genuinely interested in your wellbeing. However they don't care when they think they cant turn a profit from you. It is dangerous to do business with those type of racists. Black men and black women while established and new to some business, most have a platform where artists can benefit from solid values, income streams and great business partnership. Be it black execs or white execs or azn execs. Ultimately it must start within black execs. It is the defacto standard. The coldness of other execs should not be mirrored in community that think white boys ice cold. There has to be new age men that mingle, associate and dominate in any business they want to. Especially globally. White boys appear to be given some pass, and yet when it comes to succession planning some dont know how to use it and more often than not, the transition process is largely negative. Because the infrastructure was not properly built. Lyor causing the split betwen Dame and Jay. Left Dame with seeking alternatives and midlife crisis. Had there been more infrastructure. There would be lateral and parallel options for Dame.

White dont measure their wealth compared to blacks they do so compared to whites. Media stats showing disparaging percentages in racial comparisons are reflections of racism, bias, segregation, hate and discrimination. You dont compare a white family in 1900s when most blacks were enslaved and Americans had "laws" and "value system" to hold blacks down and push whites forward. That is not a fair comparison in wealth. Until America and Europe and c00ns correct the mistakes that America has done to blacks. There are no true wealth comparison. Individuals and communities across racial lines help or gain something from helping. However for every successful athletes the team owner is rich. Passing other applicants is not a sign of wealth, it is a sign of racial discrimination. Bias that exist and reflection that white people practice racism and racism and practice of racism has to be stopped. White are giving unfair advantages and that is not an equal playing field. And the unfair advantage that favor white boys and girls to mistreat brown or red hues must be stopped.

White America definitely compares itself to black society as far as wealth. Hence why the poorest white "conservative" supports economic polices that will benefit the wealthy and hurt himself because he knows black people will be disproportionately hurt. Decades of data supports this.

 

[mson]

What he say about Rich the Kid..

..."he's gonna have a hard time"...

That was ill. Got quiet in there.