Lupe Fiasco - Tetsuo & Youth (Discussion thread)*Stream*

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They all came hard but Trae about 4/5th... I disagree wit nikkaz hatin on this track, I could hear 5 more mins and 3-4 more rappers (Juvi, Twista, 3000, Trick Daddy)

Buk, Glasses, Billy Blue, Lu, Trae, Fam Lay, Trouble
I actually think this shyt is made for someone like Bun B to spit on. I think an extended version with Bun B, Hov, Killer Mike and 3000 would be crazy.
 

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I actually think this shyt is made for someone like Bun B to spit on. I think an extended version with Bun B, Hov, Killer Mike and 3000 would be crazy.
Yeah Killer Mike would be perfect on that shyt too... But I cant see Hov on there--Mural is more Hov's lane (He got his own lane already)
 

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Yeah Killer Mike would be perfect on that shyt too... But I cant see Hov on there--Mural is more Hov's lane (He got his own lane already)
I know Mural would be better but I don't see how he couldn't spit it just like Lu. A posse cut like that reminds me of Popping Tags.
 

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http://kenctures.tumblr.com/post/108718628413/tetsuo-youth-album-signing-event

Got back from the signing a few hours ago... decent crowd of fans. Plenty of people had multiple albums on them to get signed.

When I got up to him, I took the tracklisting out of the casing and was like, "Man you did it with this album... now I'm a need you to sign the back upside down"
:troll:

He was like, "This guy" :heh:

Had him sign the cover and then I just straight up asked him, "So... do you want us to listen to this album backwards?"

He started laughin' and put his hands up, then said, "Now see, I'm not gonna get into that, I'm not gonna do it"


I was like, c'mon breh, and he replied, "If it works like that then..." and I was like, "yeah it works well like that, I call it Youth & Tetsuo"
:youngsabo:

After that we both started laughing and I walked out.

Can't dap you enough. You the man :umad::salute:
 

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I'm still too high off this album to argue Andre 3000(an incredible rapper in his own right so I'm not even that mad) being a better rapper than Lupe and Lupe's poetic merit.

I'll just leave these here for people who might be unaware of Lupe's more "poetic" material.







 
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People scared to say this is better than The Cool. I understand why, but off first listen this album is just too heavy to play second fiddle to any of his previous works. I need to listen more but yeah...The Cool and F&L gotta sit down for now.

It's okay brehs, some day somebody will surpass Jordan as well.


I ain't scared breh. But The Cool is fukking incredible how he not only made it a concept album with a narrative, tied that narrative to previous songs to form a complete picture, but also conceptualized the trackkisting to so that even the songs that were not part of the traditional story still added elements of mood, focus, and overall theme. That's fukking incredible, the nikka essentially created a DOUBLE concept album:damn: what MC has even come close to pulling something Iike that off (Kendrick comes the closest) The Cool is a masterpiece and cannot be chucked to the wayside just becuase Lupe dropped another potential Classic.
 

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was listening to this driving to Jerz
damn this shyt... i like this shyt alot
that one joint i played back like 5 times
connect the dots one
 

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People are really loving Dots and Lines on Twitter (where Lu is on a retweeting rampage). Interesting, I thought it was the weakest song on the album. :yeshrug:
 

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They all came hard but Trae about 4/5th... I disagree wit nikkaz hatin on this track, I could hear 5 more mins and 3-4 more rappers (Juvi, Twista, 3000, Trick Daddy)

Buk, Glasses, Billy Blue, Lu, Trae, Fam Lay, Trouble

I actually love that there was not anybody that was super famous on the track. And I agree, I could listen to another 5 minutes. Had a vintage Wu feel to me even tho it's more modern beat. Just a 9 minute dusty posse cut that's like :demonic::damn:
 

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I ain't scared breh. But The Cool is fukking incredible how he not only made it a concept album with a narrative, tied that narrative to previous songs to form a complete picture, but also conceptualized the trackkisting to so that even the songs that were not part of the traditional story still added elements of mood, focus, and overall theme. That's fukking incredible, the nikka essentially created a DOUBLE concept album:damn: what MC has even come close to pulling something Iike that off (Kendrick comes the closest) The Cool is a masterpiece and cannot be chucked to the wayside just becuase Lupe dropped another potential Classic.

Agreed on all fronts. The Cool is great and my favorite album ever. I just think this is a different animal. The Cool is Kobe in his prime and Tetsuo & Youth on first listen is Lebron in his 2nd or 3rd year where you know it's just a matter of time before he put it all together (or in this case, the album gets fully digested) and surpasses him. That's how I see it personally.
 

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by K e N, on Flickr

http://kenctures.tumblr.com/post/108718628413/tetsuo-youth-album-signing-event

Got back from the signing a few hours ago... decent crowd of fans. Plenty of people had multiple albums on them to get signed.

When I got up to him, I took the tracklisting out of the casing and was like, "Man you did it with this album... now I'm a need you to sign the back upside down"
:troll:

He was like, "This guy" :heh:

Had him sign the cover and then I just straight up asked him, "So... do you want us to listen to this album backwards?"

He started laughin' and put his hands up, then said, "Now see, I'm not gonna get into that, I'm not gonna do it"


I was like, c'mon breh, and he replied, "If it works like that then..." and I was like, "yeah it works well like that, I call it Youth & Tetsuo"
:youngsabo:

After that we both started laughing and I walked out.

:salute:

To your question, he should've replied back with, "You know displays like that...where you just let it flow:lupe:....or you sit back and let it gooo:banderas:....You KNOW!":steviej:
 

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I might as well put this hear, as I relistened again on much better quality...

I'm listening to it again now though, but with better quality this time, so let's see if I feel different....
The mix and sound sounds better on this version, quality of it sounds good. On Mural he's technically rapping well (I said originally he wasn't rapping bad on this either). But the lyrics aren't captivating, I really like the beat though. A lot of the wordplay sounds forced and corny though, the whole rain shyt... I've heard this style done much better before. The actual technical rapping aspect as far as spitting is fine on this though.

Blur My Hands, don't like the inflections, not a listenable song. Awkward delivery at times. Again finding it wanting to finish. It's really random, like some of the shyt he will do vocally is just unnecessary and detracting. It sounds like it's trying to overcomplicate all aspects of the song, deliver/inflections etc and doesn't sound natural nor enjoyable due to this.

Dots & Lines, random shyt at the beginning, I like the beat, even the hook delivery but not the lyrics. This song disappoints me because I think it had potential to be very good. Beat is dope. Then he fukks it up again with some of the awkward conformative delivery. So overall the song has potential and hints at becoming something dope with potential but all the other flaws seem to ruin it. Some of the bars on the last verse not sure about, sounds like it's just to fit in the flow at times rather than have some potency to it. Again hits and misses, touches on things but misses.

Prisoner 1&2, don't like the delivery or inflections again, it sounds very awkward the song, beats on the album aren't bad at all though. The hook on this is fine too, no issues with that. I can see why I would find this frustrating, cause again I want to like it, cause things I like about it but it's flaws come and ruin it for me. Adlibs are awkward too, which is a theme throughout the album. The length of some of the songs while not captivating me is probably 1 of the reasons want it to finish so much. Again it hints at being good but never does it consistently to make it enjoyable. He's often trying to do too much.

Body Of Work, rapping well on the first verse, I liked the first verse, don't like the hook. I can completely understand why I felt like I felt on the first listen, it's frustrating, may like something then something ruins it. Next verse is fine, hook though not doing it for me. Last verse though the inflections and delivery again hamper my enjoyment of it and some of the rhyming seems forced.

Little Death, like the beat, awkward delivery again, like the sound of the hook. Second verse has some problems with inflections again but then touches on some good shyt, so hit and miss consistently, never consistent.

No Scratches, inflections again are a problem straight away, sounds weird and awkward and not conducive to making a good song. Some of the hooks sound really samey. Not captivating again. Was waiting for more from the last verse too but didn't happen.

Chopper, beat is fine, don't like the hook. First verse forgettable, second verse is good flow wise, and it's a good verse, dude Buk? His verse is dope. Don't like the Lupe inflections on the chorus. Third verse ok, 2nd part of it is a bit better than the first I feel. As I said at the time I like Trae Tha Truth's verse, nice, he's dope. Next verse good too. Next verse is ok. Lupe's verse again isn't really captivating me again. As I said at the time a few bars that are ok in the latter stages, but overall no.

Deliver first verse don't like, second verse is good, as I said at the time. But as a song it's not something could listen to, everything seems to have a problem with it, which was my initial impression, even the good parts have like flaws somewhere in the song that damage the enjoyability to me. Flow on the last verse starts ok, but don't like the flow switch. Only verse that really interested me was the second.

Madonna forgettable. Wanting it to hurry up and finish. Too much corny inflections and delivery. Unlistenable to me, impossible to enjoy and jarring my head. Actually giving me a headache from being so annoying. It's messy.

Adoration Of The Magi, I like the beat, has obviously the corniest lyric probably on the whole album lol. Don't like the bars, don't like the inflections. Really don't like this song, shyt like this is what the makes the album as a whole unlistenable. Not impressing me. Makes me want an instrumental album instead. Horrible delivery and inflections. Some of this shyt is awkward for the sake of it. Highly annoying unlistenable song. I can see why I disliked it upon first listen. Some bad multies too that aren't effective. Unlistenable song that again gives me headache and just want to finish as soon as possible.

So I can completely understand why I felt how I felt, and I still do, there's not 1 song I can comfortably fully enjoy. The moments of it capturing me are either non existent or far too few and far between. It's mixed and mastered well, the quality sounds good and much better on this version which is good for the album and the beats sounds even better hearing them full quality. That being said I would upgrade my rating to a 2 mic album, it sounded even worse not in the best quality, some of the beats are really good, and there's some aspects that are good but overall it's missing.
 

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I might as well put this hear, as I relistened again on much better quality...

I'm listening to it again now though, but with better quality this time, so let's see if I feel different....
The mix and sound sounds better on this version, quality of it sounds good. On Mural he's technically rapping well (I said originally he wasn't rapping bad on this either). But the lyrics aren't captivating, I really like the beat though. A lot of the wordplay sounds forced and corny though, the whole rain shyt... I've heard this style done much better before. The actual technical rapping aspect as far as spitting is fine on this though.

Blur My Hands, don't like the inflections, not a listenable song. Awkward delivery at times. Again finding it wanting to finish. It's really random, like some of the shyt he will do vocally is just unnecessary and detracting. It sounds like it's trying to overcomplicate all aspects of the song, deliver/inflections etc and doesn't sound natural nor enjoyable due to this.

Dots & Lines, random shyt at the beginning, I like the beat, even the hook delivery but not the lyrics. This song disappoints me because I think it had potential to be very good. Beat is dope. Then he fukks it up again with some of the awkward conformative delivery. So overall the song has potential and hints at becoming something dope with potential but all the other flaws seem to ruin it. Some of the bars on the last verse not sure about, sounds like it's just to fit in the flow at times rather than have some potency to it. Again hits and misses, touches on things but misses.

Prisoner 1&2, don't like the delivery or inflections again, it sounds very awkward the song, beats on the album aren't bad at all though. The hook on this is fine too, no issues with that. I can see why I would find this frustrating, cause again I want to like it, cause things I like about it but it's flaws come and ruin it for me. Adlibs are awkward too, which is a theme throughout the album. The length of some of the songs while not captivating me is probably 1 of the reasons want it to finish so much. Again it hints at being good but never does it consistently to make it enjoyable. He's often trying to do too much.

Body Of Work, rapping well on the first verse, I liked the first verse, don't like the hook. I can completely understand why I felt like I felt on the first listen, it's frustrating, may like something then something ruins it. Next verse is fine, hook though not doing it for me. Last verse though the inflections and delivery again hamper my enjoyment of it and some of the rhyming seems forced.

Little Death, like the beat, awkward delivery again, like the sound of the hook. Second verse has some problems with inflections again but then touches on some good shyt, so hit and miss consistently, never consistent.

No Scratches, inflections again are a problem straight away, sounds weird and awkward and not conducive to making a good song. Some of the hooks sound really samey. Not captivating again. Was waiting for more from the last verse too but didn't happen.

Chopper, beat is fine, don't like the hook. First verse forgettable, second verse is good flow wise, and it's a good verse, dude Buk? His verse is dope. Don't like the Lupe inflections on the chorus. Third verse ok, 2nd part of it is a bit better than the first I feel. As I said at the time I like Trae Tha Truth's verse, nice, he's dope. Next verse good too. Next verse is ok. Lupe's verse again isn't really captivating me again. As I said at the time a few bars that are ok in the latter stages, but overall no.

Deliver first verse don't like, second verse is good, as I said at the time. But as a song it's not something could listen to, everything seems to have a problem with it, which was my initial impression, even the good parts have like flaws somewhere in the song that damage the enjoyability to me. Flow on the last verse starts ok, but don't like the flow switch. Only verse that really interested me was the second.

Madonna forgettable. Wanting it to hurry up and finish. Too much corny inflections and delivery. Unlistenable to me, impossible to enjoy and jarring my head. Actually giving me a headache from being so annoying. It's messy.

Adoration Of The Magi, I like the beat, has obviously the corniest lyric probably on the whole album lol. Don't like the bars, don't like the inflections. Really don't like this song, shyt like this is what the makes the album as a whole unlistenable. Not impressing me. Makes me want an instrumental album instead. Horrible delivery and inflections. Some of this shyt is awkward for the sake of it. Highly annoying unlistenable song. I can see why I disliked it upon first listen. Some bad multies too that aren't effective. Unlistenable song that again gives me headache and just want to finish as soon as possible.

So I can completely understand why I felt how I felt, and I still do, there's not 1 song I can comfortably fully enjoy. The moments of it capturing me are either non existent or far too few and far between. It's mixed and mastered well, the quality sounds good and much better on this version which is good for the album and the beats sounds even better hearing them full quality. That being said I would upgrade my rating to a 2 mic album, it sounded even worse not in the best quality, some of the beats are really good, and there's some aspects that are good but overall it's missing.
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