Lupe Fiasco - Tetsuo & Youth (Discussion thread)*Stream*

[42 Monks]

listening to this album for a second time and my brain is just like

now i'm hearing that there's levels to the levels of the levels of this shyt? stop it lu

 

[JCalli]

Heard the album twice now, but you know how long it took me to listen each time

Lupe just ain't give a single fukk on this album. Not one. He done lost his dam mind.

It's so much greatness on this, but I gotta say the adoration of magi is just ridiculous. The production on that track is perfect, also.

When he starting going through the yoga poses, I just had to laugh. He something else.

I'm looking forward to sitting with this album and breaking it down.

Gotta read through the last 4 pages, it seems the coli have a theory

 

[Nephilim_BC]

Kendrick inspires another artist.

Kendrick gets another poster negged

 

[The Unknown Hype]

The album is ok to me so far...I mean I loved the lupe that made food and liquor and the cool and I felt like he fell off a little after that.On this album he has returned to form but like some others saying it feels forced like he heard the criticism and turned it up to 11. Which is a problem lyrically because you can clearly see in his writing that hes trying to twist words on purpose to be overly complex.

I know half of yall in here have written a rap in your life and probably have had moments where you could have turned a simple statement into your own personal puzzle that wasnt hard for you to understand since you wrote it. This is the first problem starting off with this album and the main one. The other is having something to actually talk about besides just lyrically flexing the entire time. I mean its cool but music is a escape to most people and if you have a message it should be relatable from the jump not a project after you buy the album

Old songs like streets on fire was cool not just for lyricism but trying to find out what the streets actually personified. It could be looked at in the multitude of ways and still make sense, but it had something behind it. This album is just lupe trying to come off as overly complex for no reason at all. Remember what einstein said it takes a genius to make something simple. If you have to get complex when your explaining something than you really dont understand it that well. Dont get me wrong album def has some great lines and great moments but i can feel alot of gaps between those times

 

[BigF]

I'm copping this. This is very encouraging brehs.

 

[Tommy Dervan]

I haven't heard it yet, but if Mural is any indication, it should be great.

 

[Grand Conde]

P.M. please.

 

[hu3ypdadon]

the Unknown Hype, post: 11831887, member: 395"]The album is ok to me so far...I mean I loved the lupe that made food and liquor and the cool and I felt like he fell off a little after that.On this album he has returned to form but like some others saying it feels forced like he heard the criticism and turned it up to 11. Which is a problem lyrically because you can clearly see in his writing that hes trying to twist words on purpose to be overly complex.

I know half of yall in here have written a rap in your life and probably have had moments where you could have turned a simple statement into your own personal puzzle that wasnt hard for you to understand since you wrote it. This is the first problem starting off with this album and the main one. The other is having something to actually talk about besides just lyrically flexing the entire time. I mean its cool but music is a escape to most people and if you have a message it should be relatable from the jump not a project after you buy the album

Old songs like streets on fire was cool not just for lyricism but trying to find out what the streets actually personified. It could be looked at in the multitude of ways and still make sense, but it had something behind it. This album is just lupe trying to come off as overly complex for no reason at all. Remember what einstein said it takes a genius to make something simple. If you have to get complex when your explaining something than you really dont understand it that well. Dont get me wrong album def has some great lines and great moments but i can feel alot of gaps between those times

Good post

 

[Jack Don the G]

NVM. Made a new post since this post was a late edit.

 

[NoHalfWay]

Old songs like streets on fire was cool not just for lyricism but trying to find out what the streets actually personified. It could be looked at in the multitude of ways and still make sense, but it had something behind it. This album is just lupe trying to come off as overly complex for no reason at all.

you sure bout that breh?

 

[GoldenGlove]

The album is ok to me so far...I mean I loved the lupe that made food and liquor and the cool and I felt like he fell off a little after that.On this album he has returned to form but like some others saying it feels forced like he heard the criticism and turned it up to 11. Which is a problem lyrically because you can clearly see in his writing that hes trying to twist words on purpose to be overly complex.

I know half of yall in here have written a rap in your life and probably have had moments where you could have turned a simple statement into your own personal puzzle that wasnt hard for you to understand since you wrote it. This is the first problem starting off with this album and the main one. The other is having something to actually talk about besides just lyrically flexing the entire time. I mean its cool but music is a escape to most people and if you have a message it should be relatable from the jump not a project after you buy the album

Old songs like streets on fire was cool not just for lyricism but trying to find out what the streets actually personified. It could be looked at in the multitude of ways and still make sense, but it had something behind it. This album is just lupe trying to come off as overly complex for no reason at all. Remember what einstein said it takes a genius to make something simple. If you have to get complex when your explaining something than you really dont understand it that well. Dont get me wrong album def has some great lines and great moments but i can feel alot of gaps between those times

So you're saying because the bars aren't straightforward that it's just ok? Like... you sat here and really tried to dock points because you don't "get" everything after a few spins?

 

[GoldenGlove]

Kendrick inspires another artist.

 

[FrederickDouglas]

The fact that this album is so complex and has so many layers adds to the appeal IMO.

Some music you can listen to and immediately understand the concepts and ideas. Not to say that's bad. Some of my favorite songs are like that.

But, with jigsaw puzzle raps like this, it requires you to think. At first it may sound like just a bunch of words that rhyme well together, but then when you listen again, you catch something new and it's like

Then you go online and read the theories and breakdowns and it's like

Then you give the album another listen and it starts to come together

I can see why someone who just gives this a superficial listen might find it unappealing, but for me, it gets better each time I listen again and find something new to appreciate

 

[GoldenGlove]

The fact that this album is so complex and has so many layers adds to the appeal IMO.

Some music you can listen to and immediately understand the concepts and ideas. Not to say that's bad. Some of my favorite songs are like that.

But, with jigsaw puzzle raps like this, it requires you to think. At first it may sound like just a bunch of words that rhyme well together, but then when you listen again, you catch something new and it's like

Then you go online and read the theories and breakdowns and it's like

Then you give the album another listen and it starts to come together

I can see why someone who just gives this a superficial listen might find it unappealing, but for me, it gets better each time I listen again and find something new to appreciate

Exactly... it's what gives the album so much replay value. And the crazy shyt is, that before you go online and look at breakdowns, when you sit through it with other people, they catch shyt that you may not have when you've listened to it. It really is some thought provoking shyt

I can keep listening to this because of the layers to it.

I've literally just had the album on repeat in my office for the last 2 days.

This is one of those albums where it's hard to get to the end of it every time you put it on because it's so good, that you get caught up just listening to it all over again from the beginning without skipping

 

[MaccabeanRebel]

This dude is truly on that canibus shyt and i love it, canibus used to (and still does) do them marathon raps..mural reminds me of "c of tranquility"...just 9 minutes of abstract lyrics, imagery, and sub plots...so dope!