Lupe Fiasco Speaks On Kwanza + African Americans Reconnecting With Africa

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Lupe must have had fascinating parents
 

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@JahFocus CS - it seems you are at least non-opponent of Kwanzaa. Do you mind responding to this post?

I don't think it needs any updating, and it is not obsolete. It is a New Afrikan/diasporic holiday with a pan-African spirit.

Genetic ancestry tests are cool and they are a good tool for anyone looking to research their roots, but don't fall into the fallacy of thinking those tests are an end-all, be-all; they are merely a starting point. The tests may show you where folks who share similar genetic markers are concentrated, but that doesn't erase the need for real and serious genealogical research. Those genetic tests do not automatically relink ties that were broken through enslavement.

The only way to make Kwanzaa obsolete would be to undo the past 500 years. 99% of New Afrikans do not have any knowledge of their ancestral nations and tribes and the cultures of those nations and tribes... so we no longer practice those harvest festivals. Kwanzaa is our harvest festival and the historical conditions allowing for its creation were our unique experiences of enslavement and our development as a new nation of people.

People may levy (legitimate) criticisms of Maulana Karenga, which I share, but I separate the holiday from the man.
 
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I don't think it needs any updating, and it is not obsolete. It is a New Afrikan/diasporic holiday with a pan-African spirit.

Genetic ancestry tests are cool and they are a good tool for anyone looking to research their roots, but don't fall into the fallacy of thinking those tests are an end-all, be-all; they are merely a starting point. The tests may show you where folks who share similar genetic markers are concentrated, but that doesn't erase the need for real and serious genealogical research. Those genetic tests do not automatically relink ties that were broken through enslavement.

The only way to make Kwanzaa obsolete would be to undo the past 500 years. 99% of New Afrikans do not have any knowledge of their ancestral nations and tribes and the cultures of those nations and tribes... so we no longer practice those harvest festivals. Kwanzaa is our harvest festival and the historical conditions allowing for its creation were our unique experiences of enslavement and our development as a new nation of people.

People may levy (legitimate) criticisms of Maulana Karenga, which I share, but I separate the holiday from the man.

I'm not at all interested in celebrating Kwanzaa.
 

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The word Kwanzaa is Kiswahili (Bantu < Niger-Congo) and it clearly comes from a root -anza "start, start, originate." The word kwanza itself (with 2 "a's": the Us corporation added a third) is broken down to "at the start, to start with, to begin with." This is why the term deals with "first fruits" as it refers to the collection and offering of the first fruits of harvest (the primary sproutings). Many agricultural societies have such celebrations and this practice later became the "tithes" inside the Biblical lifestyle. Many people do not realize this, however cash wasn't tithes inside the Old Testament: one's harvest turned was (you gave 10% of your plants).

Kiswahili -anza is ciLuba-Bantu -aasa "begin, start, undertake; build, construct; live, dwell." Instead of saying kwanza, in ciLuba you'd say kwasa. Variants of the root are -aashisha and -aashila. Other variants are -aasulula "rebuild, reconstruct"; cyashilu "beginning, commencement, foundation, achievement"; ngaashilu "so as to construct, architecture." The Yoruba cognate of this root is ashe "the power to cause to happen

This root is at the coronary heart of certainly one of historic Egypt's remarkable deities, and that is the nTr ("God") /wsr/ "Osiris." It is likewise spelled /jsr/ (Hebrew Yeshua/Jesus). Wsr/Osiris turned into the god of agriculture, harvests and the founding principle of life. Osiris is referred to as the engenderer of all lifestyles. He is the very lifestyles principle itself: indeed the very "constructing" block. He is referred to as /jt nTr/ "Father of the gods" and that is due to the fact he is the very precept that gives rise to the exceptional world

Wsr/Wsjr (Osiris) is in ciLuba: Aashila "start, begin, undertake, construct, live." The celebration of Kwanzaa, in essence, is the party of Wsjr/Wsr/Osiris who represented the primary culmination; the resurrection of lifestyles every harvest season. As we stated previously, the basis -aasa- is likewise cognate with Yoruba -ashe-. The word -ashe- is at the root of the Yoruba deity (orisha) Eshu (its with the aid of-shape). Eshu is the personification of -ashe-. Thus, Kwanzaa is the celebratory of life and the capacity to bring on (convey into fruition) that which we preference in existence. It is set growing and renewal, but it is also approximately "constructing" and "reconstructing"; consequently, it's far approximately satisfying a reason, setting goals, and creating the future you need to enjoy.
 

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kwanza is more like a black positivity/pan-african thing that was born of the black nationalist movement. of the 1960s.

juneteenth is more directly/specifically tied to distinctly, AfroAmerican culture/experiences and is over 150 years old
 
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