Lupe Fiasco “kendrick is not a top tier lyricist to me”

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Punchlines are a form of wordplay, you're making a "punchline" out to be exclusively comedy shyt.

Somebody quoted ab soul bars a while ago. His wordplay are mainly puns which are punchlines imo.
Who said anything about comedy?


“Word play” as it relates to rhyming is not the same as a “punchline”


You can include some word play to help deliver a punchline of course but you do not need to utilize word play to execute a punch line in itself ...they are not the same or a “form” of one another
 

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He doesn't make subpar music tho. I will agree that Kendrick has made better music but gtfoh with this. No one is saying the man is trash goddamn lol. I've probably listened to Kendrick more than any other rapper in the last 3 years but c'mon now. Stop being butthurt.

Exactly,you have been listening to Kendrick more than the guy who thinks hes god gift to bars:mjlol:.How can he question a nikka whos as lyrical as Kendrick AND can combine that with making great music,and music that remains commercial and digestable while remaining lyrical?Kendrick dont need no fukking pointers from Lupe:martin:
 

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Exactly,you have been listening to Kendrick more than the guy who thinks hes god gift to bars:mjlol:.How can he question a nikka whos as lyrical as Kendrick AND can combine that with making great music,and music that remains commercial and digestable while remaining lyrical?Kendrick dont need no fukking pointers from Lupe:martin:

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Word.
 

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Jay z is not a punchline rapper and never has been...

Kendrick is a great song writer but not an elite lyricist.. Nothing wrong with that..

He doesn't do metaphors nor does he give you those wisdom bars of say a Styles, Scarface or Sigel..

Kendrick definitely uses metaphors :mjlol: wtf? Prolonged extended metaphors at that


Let me ask you this ....what is a metaphor to you?


And Jay is certainly a Punch line rapper ....he usues just about every rhyming technique actually .... like in baseball you have “5 tool players” that would be Jay-Z
 

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See this is what I'm saying. How do you know dudes were just arbitrarily posting rhymes without thinking they're dope? Those verses were dope and even a Lupe fan in here admitted he hears people qoute Kendrick all the time. shyt like this is why dudes don't fukk with Lupe. His stans are almost as pretentious as he is.
you were referring to a person who was posting quotables, idk if the person thinks they are dope, but I am saying no kdot fans quoting them shyts.

@underline yeah I bet those quotes were "Be humble... sit down" "Loyalty inside my DNA":lolbron: foh with them hook quotes:camby:
 

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Kendrick definitely uses metaphors :mjlol: wtf? Prolonged extended metaphors at that


Let me ask you this ....what is a metaphor to you?


And Jay is certainly a Punch line rapper ....he usues just about every rhyming technique actually .... like in baseball you have “5 tool players” that would be Jay-Z


I agree with everything except that Jay being a punchline rapper thing. Of course he can do punchlines but that's not what he's mainly known for.
 

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you were referring to a person who was posting quotables, idk if the person thinks they are dope, but I am saying no kdot fans quoting them shyts.

@underline yeah I bet those quotes were "Be humble... sit down" "Loyalty inside my DNA":lolbron: foh with them hook quotes:camby:

No. I was referring to several posters posting several full Kendrick verses. Not just hooks and catchy lil lines. And again, a Lupe Stan in here already admitted they hear people quoting Kendrick all the time.
 

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No. I was referring to several posters posting several full Kendrick verses. And again, a Lupe Stan in here already admitted they hear people quoting Kendrick lines all the time.
@bolded Thats who I am talking about in my post:mindblown: them nikkas Bullshtting
 

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Exactly,you have been listening to Kendrick more than the guy who thinks hes god gift to bars:mjlol:.How can he question a nikka whos as lyrical as Kendrick AND can combine that with making great music,and music that remains commercial and digestable while remaining lyrical?Kendrick dont need no fukking pointers from Lupe:martin:
:hhh: Yall wild emotional about this goddamn. I still have listened to Tetsuo and Youth a ton and Drogas Light not that much, but I ain't talkin about the music. You can still kill verses and make great music. I'm not even knocking Kendrick smfh. You can be the best rapper and not be the super duper-est lyricist. No one's saying Kendrick should change shyt and mess with what he's got. He's poetic in a different way. Again we talkin about Lupe saying he isn't a top tier lyricist to HIM. I would understand that coming from Lupe cuz he likes dense shyt and witty shyt.

:gucci:
 

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I agree with everything except that Jay being a punchline rapper thing. Of course he can do punchlines but that's not what he's mainly known for.

Bruh....

If you use predominantly punchlines...you are a punchline rapper...

Jay Z has multiple punchlines in his verses...he's known for his bars...he probably is the best punchline rapper

His verse on Drug Dealers Anonymous was full of punchlines...
 

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Kendrick definitely uses metaphors :mjlol: wtf? Prolonged extended metaphors at that


Let me ask you this ....what is a metaphor to you?


And Jay is certainly a Punch line rapper ....he usues just about every rhyming technique actually .... like in baseball you have “5 tool players” that would be Jay-Z
Maybe saying he doesn't do metaphors is strong.. It's not his strength and when I do hear them they're nothing special..

Jay doesn't really use punchlines.. A punchline stands out.. Jays cleverness is in that his lines don't really standout in his verses.. They don't break the topic for the most part and you just catch them later..
 

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Bruh....

If you use punchlines...you are a punchline rapper...

Jay Z has multiple punchlines...he's known for his bars...

His verse on Drug Dealers Anonymous was full of punchlines...


No. Just because you've used punchlines before does not make you a punchline rapper. That's not what he's mainly known for. Punchline rappers are rappers who prominently showcase punchlines in most of their raps.
 

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I agree with everything except that Jay being a punchline rapper thing. Of course he can do punchlines but that's not what he's mainly known for.
He doesn’t have to be “known for” xyz I’m simply talking about what he actually is capable of doing with high end proficiency .... Jay I would say isn’t “known” for any one thing in particular ...as far as rhyming ..he does it all

It would be kind of like saying Prince is known for singing without acknowledging his proficiencies in song writing / instrumentation / performing multi versed guys like that are known for being the total package who can do it all in their professions this is why they are regarded as legendary
 

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He doesn’t have to be “known for” xyz I’m simply talking about what he actually is capable of doing with high end proficiency .... Jay I would say isn’t “known” for any one thing in particular ...as far as rhyming ..he does it all

It would be kind of like saying Prince is known for singing without acknowledging his proficiencies in song writing / instrumentation / performing multi versed guys like that are known for being the total package who can do it all in their professions this is why they are regarded as legendary


Bro, just because someone is capable of doing something doesn't make them known for that particular thing. I'm capable of painting a house well but I'm not known as a painter. Jordan could shoot 3s but he was not known as a 3 point shooter.
 
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