Lupe Fiasco Goes On Twitter Rant Against "Uppity Black Ni--as,"

[feelosofer]

To be honest after Chuck D. I stopped listening to rappers and taking their opinions on politics seriously. Dude is an armchair revolutionary and he got called out on it and now he's calling D.L. Hughley and Roland Martin uppity.

Dude is running namedropping Martin Luther King and telling people not to vote, when political activism (including voting) was a major part of his platform. I would have more respect for Lupe had he fleshed out his opinions with some substance, but running around telling young kids, and HL posters not to vote is poisonous.

 

[Type Username Here]

To be honest after Chuck D. I stopped listening to rappers and taking their opinions on politics seriously. Dude is an armchair revolutionary and he got called out on it and now he's calling D.L. Hughley and Roland Martin uppity.

Dude is running namedropping Martin Luther King and telling people not to vote, when political activism (including voting) was a major part of his platform. I would have more respect for Lupe had he fleshed out his opinions with some substance, but running around telling young kids, and HL posters not to vote is poisonous.

Exactly.

Remember when Lupe claimed to be a hip-hop head and didn't know the lyrics to the Tribe Called Quest song?

Now he fukks up Dr. King's vision.

 

[The Real]

Why say yall to the argument that voting, ie actively taking part in the voting process, simply supports and sustains a fraudelent oppressive system that hasnt done shyt for your community?

im not agreeing or disagreeing with lupe. im just asking

i keep saying it, black folk need their own political party

Well, on one hand, neither party has ever put Black issues on the platform in a real way, and both have contributed to the dereliction of the Black community. On the other hand, like I said in my moving train remark, not voting on account of "not participating" in the "system" is basically letting yourself get steamrolled for no reason, as if there are no concrete effects of voting whatsoever.

I think there are two points here. One is that you can't "not participate." There is no way to remove yourself unless you're planning to live off the grid and like a hermit. The second point is that the idea that there is a "system" is flawed, imo. Society isn't a system, and neither is the government, really. Instead, there are a number of interlocking apparatuses and power relations which don't form a neat totality or unity. When you see it that way, and see that there is even incoherence and struggle inside this supposed "system," then I think you eventually have to give up on ideas about how engaging in something like a local or even presidential vote is an endorsement of and participation in that entire system. It just seems more complicated and specific than that.

All that being said, I don't personally mind if people don't want to vote for either of the two major candidates and either abstain or vote third party. I just don't like that particular reasoning used by Lupe and others like him.

 

[acri1]

Yeah, Lupe needs to STFU and just make music.

 

[thekingsmen]

Doesn't cease to amaze me about brothers dissing other brothers that don't want to go along with the system. Just like MLK started going in a bigger direction than civil rights..Human Rights and brothers started jumping off the band wagon calling him all kinds of names.

Coli Posters logic...
Seeing all the death and destruction in this country, as long as you vote none of that matters.

 

[Techniec]

Well, on one hand, neither party has ever put Black issues on the platform in a real way, and both have contributed to the dereliction of the Black community. On the other hand, like I said in my moving train remark, not voting on account of "not participating" in the "system" is basically letting yourself get steamrolled for no reason, as if there are no concrete effects of voting whatsoever.

I think there are two points here. One is that you can't "not participate." There is no way to remove yourself unless you're planning to live off the grid and like a hermit. The second point is that the idea that there is a "system" is flawed, imo. Society isn't a system, and neither is the government, really. Instead, there are a number of interlocking apparatuses and power relations which don't form a neat totality or unity. When you see it that way, and see that there is even incoherence and struggle inside this supposed "system," then I think you eventually have to give up on ideas about how engaging in something like a local or even presidential vote is an endorsement of and participation in that entire system. It just seems more complicated and specific than that.

All that being said, I don't personally mind if people don't want to vote for either of the two major candidates and either abstain or vote third party. I just don't like that particular reasoning used by Lupe and others like him.

i can dig it

 

[Real N Quotes]

people are getting tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

 

[kermit da hustla]

Uppity? Did you even read the rest of my post or are you just being contrarian for no reason?

Look, the Black experience in this country has no analogue, but even if you look at the modern Black conditon in its full scope, and draw lines between it and slavery, to think that this life is the same as the life of a Black person living on a plantation in the slavery era is disrespectful to that history. You're not a slave. The legacy of slavery is still a defining factor of Black life, but modern Black life is not the same as slave life.

Where is the distinction, aside from the actual chains on enslavement becoming figurative instead of physical? They don't teach us in our schools. They're not hiring us to work in their offices. We're tolerated just barely, treated as entertainment and appeased through the bread and circuses that leech off of our athletic and creative talents.

We are still trying to get off the plantation. Don't you get it? Nothing has changed. Ask Trayvon Martin if he isn't an "analogue." His analogues (your word!) hung from ropes and had their limbs chopped off for thinking they could walk off the plantation. I respect what you're saying, but wake up. I was where you were. I woke up. shyt is not changing for us, and it's not designed to.

 

[kermit da hustla]

people are getting tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

+1

the only reason i still support the democrats, is because i know they make it just a little bit easier being black in america. aside from that, fukk both parties.

 

[No1]

people are getting tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

Yeah, but now isn't the time. I could see you say that shyt in 2000, but not right now. Right now is a defining moment in American history.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

people are getting tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

People who argue against voting often seem to have this implicit statement that somehow things were once more wholesome and we got to a point where it's all hopeless and the system is rigged.

When was voting ever not about the lesser of two evils? Not just in America but everywhere. If power and institutions inevitably corrupt to some degree, that I think we can all agree on, then we will always be voting for the lesser of two (or 3 or 4, etc.) evils.

Were blacks who voted for JFK and Lyndon Johnson voting for benevolent, near-perfect Presidents who always had their best interest in mind in every situation, were not corrupt, and didn't barter with evil? fukk no. They did it because they felt it was better for their situation to vote for them.

This new age smart dumb nikka philosophy of not voting reeks of brattiness, bytchmade emotion, and lack of historical perspective. I'll probably have a lot more to say about this on the next podcast than I will in this thread though.

 

[The War Report]

Where is the distinction, aside from the actual chains on enslavement becoming figurative instead of physical? They don't teach us in our schools. They're not hiring us to work in their offices. We're tolerated just barely, treated as entertainment and appeased through the bread and circuses that leech off of our athletic and creative talents.

We are still trying to get off the plantation. Don't you get it? Nothing has changed. Ask Trayvon Martin if he isn't an "analogue." His analogues (your word!) hung from ropes and had their limbs chopped off for thinking they could walk off the plantation. I respect what you're saying, but wake up. I was where you were. I woke up. shyt is not changing for us, and it's not designed to.

So if an increasingly number of Blacks started getting degrees in technical fields(engineering), are you going to be crying about how they're being used for their minds?


And I thought Nas was bad, but Lupe takes the crown.

 

[Type Username Here]

Yeah, but now isn't the time. I could see you say that shyt in 2000, but not right now. Right now is a defining moment in American history.

To be fair, I head the same exact thing in 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2008 and 2010.

When do you think it will be "the time"?

 

[Hip-Hop-Bulls]

Lupe Fiasco Goes On Twitter Rant Against "Uppity Black Ni--as," Defends Right Not To Vote | Hip-Hop Wired

so let me get this straight, the majority of yall disagree with what Lupe said? And yall the ones calling him "Smart Dumb nikka"? .

You dudes is really lost whoever disproves what he said

 

[Type Username Here]

so let me get this straight, the majority of yall disagree with what Lupe said? And yall the ones calling him "Smart Dumb nikka"? .

You dudes is really lost whoever disproves what he said

A lot of us agree with him on the issues involving our politicians and policies What we don't cosign is "fukk it, I'm not going to vote or participate in change, I'm a nobody" mentality that is EXACTLY what the people he rails against wants.

There are plenty of local, state issues that are VERY important. There are plenty of independent candidates who need a push to get us into the next step.

Also, he falsely attributed a stance to Dr. King which was the OPPOSITE of what Dr. King believed and stood for.