Love on LeBron: "We're not best friends or hanging out everyday", doesn't pick LBJ for MVP

[Dayco23]

Nah.

You are oversatating his impact.

If he was such an impact player we would have had a better record before the trades. And the two lives would have had better records when he played there

That's a stupid argument. We didn't have a 2 or a 5 before the trade after Andy went down. This is the first season they were playing together and clearly the team defense was non existent b4 the trade. I'm not overstating his impact in any way. This offense would struggle if he wasn't there. Alot of the way it works depends on Kevin's ability to hit outside shots from 3 and the mid-range consistently.

Y'all record was bad becuz LeBron was going thru HGH withdrawal

stfu retard

 

[SchoolboyC]

If Love is such a liability then why are the Cavs worse offensively and defensively with him off the floor?

And if his stats in Minnesota never had an impact then why did they go from being a 40 win team to being one of the worst in the league after his departure? Surely it should've been addition by subtraction just like Rudy Gay & Rondo's trades right?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Y'all record was bad becuz LeBron was going thru HGH withdrawal

Nah we didn't have any defense.

We got some defense, we started winning games. At this point losing mosgov would be a bigger hit than loosing k love

 

[TheNig]

That's a stupid argument. We didn't have a 2 or a 5 before the trade after Andy went down. This is the first season they were playing together and clearly the team defense was non existent b4 the trade. I'm not overstating his impact in any way. This offense would struggle if he wasn't there. Alot of the way it works depends on Kevin's ability to hit outside shots from 3 and the mid-range consistently.



stfu retard

I knew I shoulda made your mother swallow.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

That's a stupid argument. We didn't have a 2 or a 5 before the trade after Andy went down. This is the first season they were playing together and clearly the team defense was non existent b4 the trade. I'm not overstating his impact in any way. This offense would struggle if he wasn't there. Alot of the way it works depends on Kevin's ability to hit outside shots from 3 and the mid-range consistently.



stfu retard

The offense has not struggled with him out

 

[Dayco23]

The offense has not struggled with him out

Yes it has

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Yes it has

92
98
105
123
Our scores without love


Don't seem like a struggling offense to me

 

[Dayco23]

92
98
105
123
Our scores without love


Don't seem like a struggling offense to me

Because you don't watch the games.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Because you don't watch the games.

I watched every single one of them. Never felt that if k love was in, the outcome would be different.

Both the Chicago and the Miami games were the second game of a back 2 back, at the tail end of long road trips. And it showed in their effort. They just didn't give a fukk about those games. I love wouldn't have changed that

 

[Dayco23]

I watched every single one of them. Never felt that if k love was in, the outcome would be different.

Both the Chicago and the Miami games were the second game of a back 2 back, at the tail end of long road trips. And it showed in their effort. They just didn't give a fukk about those games. I love wouldn't have changed that

They gave up early in those games because those 2 teams were able to have a successful defensive scheme which halted our offensive flow. Kyrie and Bron in both those games were getting nothing at the basket. Miami blew us off the floor and we couldn't get within 10 points in that Chicago game. Fatigue definitely was a factor but ultimately both teams were able to game plan Ky and Bron without the threat of Love. They didn't have to work as hard defensively and the Cavs had to work harder offensively. Love's presence on the court has a huge impact on allowing them to do what they do.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

They gave up early in those games because those 2 teams were able to have a successful defensive scheme which halted our offensive flow. Kyrie and Bron in both those games were getting nothing at the basket. Miami blew us off the floor and we couldn't get within 10 points in that Chicago game. Fatigue definitely was a factor but ultimately both teams were able to game plan Ky and Bron without the threat of Love. They didn't have to work as hard defensively and the Cavs had to work harder offensively. Love's presence on the court has a huge impact on allowing them to do what they do.

You're just trying to attribute those losses to k loves absence after the fact.

With him on the floor those are still losses. In the Miami game we were still in it, bron purposely grabbed the rim and got called for goaltending and when he came down he gave absolutely no fukks. He was not bothered by it at all he just hit the then lazily jogged back up the court.

That was their body language/effort those two games. And right after that game, that's when lebron said he doesn't care what playoff seed we get. That wasnt a coincidence, they were in "chill more" that game.

And again, numbers don't lie. You can't tell me that a team averaging 104 points is "struggling " on offense.

 

[Justise M]

Love should have just stayed in Minn and continue to miss the playoffs. he seemed much more happy that way

 

[Dayco23]

You're just trying to attribute those losses to k loves absence after the fact.

With him on the floor those are still losses. In the Miami game we were still in it, bron purposely grabbed the rim and got called for goaltending and when he came down he gave absolutely no fukks. He was not bothered by it at all he just hit the then lazily jogged back up the court.

That was their body language/effort those two games. And right after that game, that's when lebron said he doesn't care what playoff seed we get. That wasnt a coincidence, they were in "chill more" that game.

And again, numbers don't lie. You can't tell me that a team averaging 104 points is "struggling " on offense.

Not at all. It was evident at the beginning of the games. With him on the floor they're at least competitive. In a game against orlando you wont notice because our talent is overwhelmingly better than theirs. But when you play a team that has a game plan like Chicago or Miami you lose like we did without him on the floor. Not because the Cavs "don't give a fukk". But because those are veteran smart teams that can take advantage of what we are missing from our offense. It's not a surprise they scored well below the season average those 2 games and lost by the point margins that we did. You can't contribute all that to "fatigue."

 

[Malta]

Love can't play the 5 the way bosh used to. When Bron moves to the 4 spot which he often does, love can't be on the floor

LeBron rarely plays the 4 with the Cavs, they have more bigs than the Heat so he doesn't need to.


The issue is that LeBron & Kyrie don't really feed the post, they'll hit Love off if he's got the right matchup or seals his man real quick, but they aren't coming down the court and throwing it into the low block or anything.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Not at all. It was evident at the beginning of the games. With him on the floor they're at least competitive. In a game against orlando you wont notice because our talent is overwhelmingly better than theirs. But when you play a team that has a game plan like Chicago or Miami you lose like we did without him on the floor. Not because the Cavs "don't give a fukk". But because those are veteran smart teams that can take advantage of what we are missing from our offense. It's not a surprise they scored well below the season average those 2 games and lost by the point margins that we did. You can't contribute all that to "fatigue."

We score below the season average sometimes with him on the floor as well. That's how averages go, sometimes you score more sometimes less.

Its not like we were scoring ~80 points with him out.

We scored 98 against a very good defensively Chicago team. That's not a struggling offense any way you cut it. Yes we might have scored more with him out there, but we don't win those games.