Lord Jamar on Slut Shaming: Shame is needed

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How does thecoli feel about stories where a women has sex with a man, and then the man goes out and shames her for having sex with him and calls her things like "slut" and then the women reacts by doing something bad back to the man which the men then complain about as if it came from nowhere?
 

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I imagine the same type of man that wants or is okay with having a son for a slut is the same type that wants a daughter for one.

Slut is a term for women, not a man
No father wants his daughter or son to be very promiscuous, they both end up bad if either child goes that route. But as far as sex goes he would loosen the reigns on his son, and tighten them on his daughter, simply because he is a boy, and she is a girl. And the father would be right for doing so
 

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That was a good interview. He did have a hypocritical moment, or contradictory one might say. His thoughts on slut shaming and ex con shaming were contradictory IMO. Society can push people into negative behaviors in multiple ways but he justified ex cons without detail while sh!tting on pornstars despite mamy of them coming from fukked up backgrounds themselves. Regardless, that was a good interview. Felt like I was there choppin it up with Vlad and Jamar.
 

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Slut is a term for women, not a man
No father wants his daughter or son to be very promiscuous, they both end up bad if either child goes that route. But as far as sex goes he would loosen the reigns on his son, and tighten them on his daughter, simply because he is a boy, and she is a girl. And the father would be right for doing so

Nah. I stand by what I said.

A father who wants or is ok with his son being a SLUT, is the same one who wants his daughter to be a slut. I mean after all, men have sex with women. They are connected, no? So men having high numbers will reflect in women's numbers.

What you said would only make sense if fathers/men wanted their sons to be gay or are stupid. I don't think most fathers desire for their sons to be gay, so are you saying fathers/men are stupid and can't make a simple connection like that? :ld:
 

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Nah. I stand by what I said.

A father who wants or is ok with his son being a SLUT, is the same one who wants his daughter to be a slut. I mean after all, men have sex with women. They are connected, no? So men having high numbers will reflect in women's numbers.

What you said would only make sense if fathers/men wanted their sons to be gay or are stupid. I don't think most fathers desire for their sons to be gay, so are you saying fathers/men are stupid and can't make a simple connection like that? :ld:


Why do you want to do what a man does so badly? It's very alarming

Is it cause you had a slut past and want to rack up your number of sexual partners like a man does? :jbhmm:
 

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Make things up and ask random questions that have nothing to do with anything when your logic is exposed brehs.

Don't worry. If you're scared your sex partner numbers are too high, just divide by two so your date won't feel bad :manny:
 

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Sexual Empowerment doesnt mean have sex with any man who wants it. That is giving away your power. Instead, it's about being about to fulfill your personal desires. You can have sex when you want it. You can use your sexuality to gain what you want. You are in control. You are not just a tool used by others. It's all about taking back your power.

The problem is some people use sex to hide their symptoms, depression, loneliness, feeling unwanted, feeling weak, etc, instead of fixing the root issue. Many porn stars have troubled pasts, and try to heal themselves with sex drugs and money. Sex, drugs and money arent bad things, yet they are easy to abuse.
 

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That was a good interview. He did have a hypocritical moment, or contradictory one might say. His thoughts on slut shaming and ex con shaming were contradictory IMO. Society can push people into negative behaviors in multiple ways but he justified ex cons without detail while sh!tting on pornstars despite mamy of them coming from fukked up backgrounds themselves. Regardless, that was a good interview. Felt like I was there choppin it up with Vlad and Jamar.

Excellent point.

Like most folk, including a lot of the people bemoaning "slut shaming", his empathy is limited to his own experience. He lacks the ability to consider things that are distant or unfamiliar in the same manner that he consider things that are close to him.

For all my ladies that have such an issue with slut shaming, why don't ya'll just slut shame men? Nobody is stopping you. Go ahead and slut shame men and see how much they care as they continue to get all the p*ssy they can stand. Men and women are different. We value and desire different things. This silly attempts at trying to make everything the same do not help anyone.
 

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To shame, suggest to individuals that a certain lifestyles/actions are not cool

Slut shaming? yes
Convict shaming?no
snitch shaming?yes
Hard drug user shaming?no
Pedo shaming?yes
Drug dealer shaming?no

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Excellent point.

Like most folk, including a lot of the people bemoaning "slut shaming", his empathy is limited to his own experience. He lacks the ability to consider things that are distant or unfamiliar in the same manner that he consider things that are close to him.

For all my ladies that have such an issue with slut shaming, why don't ya'll just slut shame men? Nobody is stopping you. Go ahead and slut shame men and see how much they care as they continue to get all the p*ssy they can stand. Men and women are different. We value and desire different things. This silly attempts at trying to make everything the same do not help anyone.

There are two categories of things you are listing.
One category is things that a person chooses to take part in or not: Being a slut, a snitch, etc.
The other is things that are thrust upon a person without their consent or acceptance: Being locked away as a convict, addicted to drugs, etc.

Being critical of a person's choices is okay.
Being critical of things that have happened to a person is something different.

You can criticize a thief or murderer, but what if they claim innocence? You are criticizing them merely for being taken against their will and held prisoner? Its not the same thing.
Like.. you might criticize a girl that sleeps with 5 guys at a party of her own accord as a slut.
But if 5 guys rape a girl at a party, thats a different thing.
 
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There are two categories of things you are listing.
One category is things that a person chooses to take part in or not: Being a slut, a snitch, etc.
The other is things that are thrust upon a person without their consent or acceptance: Being locked away as a convict, addicted to drugs, etc.

Being critical of a person's choices is okay.
Being critical of things that have happened to a person is something different.

You can criticize a thief or murderer, but what if they claim innocence? You are criticizing them merely for being taken against their will and held prisoner? Its not the same thing.
Like.. you might criticize a girl that sleeps with 5 guys at a party of her own accord as a slut.
But if 5 guys rape a girl at a party, thats a different thing.
:heh:everything I mentioned is choice base
I'm not adding "what if" scenario to complicate a rather seemingly clear point. I could say what if a person is framed by a cop or chose not to snitch, but it doesn't take away from the inconsistent, often cherry picking shaming that folks are doing
 
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