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[YBE]

So you are saying Kobe is the same player now that he was back in 08?

You are a fukking idiot. You truly are.

Kobe's stats those years were a lot better than they were this year. A fukking lot better. You keep showing that you can't analyze stats. You are an idiot. Truly are.

I can analyze stats just fine breh. All i see is that Kobe chucked the ball too hard this year. Outside of that.....it's eerily similar. Explain to us....how Paul is better when he wasn't in 08, which is a better statistical season of his?

.459 .361 .840 6.3 5.4 0.5 1.8 28.3 (Kobe 2008)
.430 .303 .845 5.4 4.6 0.3 1.2 28 (Kobe 2012)

.488 .369 .851 4.0 11.6 0.1 2.7 21.1 (Paul 2008)
.478 .371 .861 3.6 9.1 0.1 2.5 19.8 (Paul 2012)

you soundin like a female right about now. i can feel you yelling at the screen

 

[YBE]

Look at the players that were on the all-nba team moron. That should give you an indication. Don't you think?

nah b.

I WANT YOUR OPINION.

Here's a link: NBA.com:

Here's a screenshot

Who were these seven to nine players that were better than Kobe Bryant in 2004?

 

[GreatestLaker]

I can analyze stats just fine breh. All i see is that Kobe chucked the ball too hard this year. Outside of that.....it's similar. Explain to us....how Paul is better when he wasn't in 08, which is by far, a better statistical season?

.459 .361 .840 6.3 5.4 0.5 1.8 28.3 (Kobe 2008)
.430 .303 .845 5.4 4.6 0.3 1.2 28 (Kobe 2012)

.488 .369 .851 4.0 11.6 0.1 2.7 21.1 (Paul 2008)
.478 .371 .861 3.6 9.1 0.1 2.5 19.8 (Paul 2012)

you soundin like a female right about now. i can feel you yelling at the screen

Kobe fell off that's what happened. You are too much of an idiot to realize that though. 2008 Kobe would probably be the best basketball player in the NBA today.

You can't seriously believe that a 33 year old Kobe is just as good as a 29 year old Kobe.

But you probably do. Cause you are an idiot.

 

[GreatestLaker]

nah b.

I WANT YOUR OPINION.

Here's a link: NBA.com:

Here's a screenshot

Who were these seven to nine players that were better than Kobe Bryant in 2004?

Ask the NBA experts that put out their yearly rankings. I'm pretty sure you are going to tell me ESPN didn't rank Kobe as the 7th best player last year too huh?

Just look at where realgm ranked him for 2005.

RealGM • View topic - Retro POY '04-05 (Voting Complete)

 

[YBE]

you can't even form your own opinion on the sh*t you're arguing

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

Kobe went from being top 5 in 10 to not being top 5 in 11.

KG went from being top 5 in 08 to not being top 5 in 09.

EVERYONE falls off. EVERYONE.

Duncan was in the discussion for top 5 in 08 anyways. Never said he wasn't. You truly don't know shyt about basketball. I mean you are the same fool that said Pierce was better Tracy.

I've forgotten more than you'll ever learn from realgm, young man

Now Duncan was in the discussion for '08? Funny, you just had a whole drawn out debate about the top 5 in '08 and neither you nor anyone you were arguing with mentioned Duncan. Keep switching up your stance though, its hilarious.

Paul Pierce accomplished more and will go down in the history books as better than Tracy McGrady. That's all that matters. I don't give a shyt about hypothetical 1-on-1 battles. Save that for RealGM./

 

[YBE]

Kobe fell off that's what happened. You are too much of an idiot to realize that though. 2008 Kobe would probably be the best basketball player in the NBA today.

You can't seriously believe that a 33 year old Kobe is just as good as a 29 year old Kobe.

But you probably do. Cause you are an idiot.

.459 .361 .840 6.3 5.4 0.5 1.8 28.3 (Kobe 2008)
.430 .303 .845 5.4 4.6 0.3 1.2 28 (Kobe 2012)

.488 .369 .851 4.0 11.6 0.1 2.7 21.1 (Paul 2008)
.478 .371 .861 3.6 9.1 0.1 2.5 19.8 (Paul 2012)

Kobe "fell off" averaging the same numbers as when he was the best basketball player in the world to you?

at this point bruh.....you're just saving face.

the distance between 2008 Kobe & 2012 Kobe is smaller than the distance between 2008 Paul & 2012 Paul. look at those numbers again. if Paul wasn't better in his best fukking season, he's not now.

 

[GreatestLaker]

you can't even form your own opinion on the sh*t you're arguing

Sporting News top 10 Players - 2005

They ranked him where he should have been for that year. Kobe was terrible in 2005. For several reason that I've already listed.

 

[YBE]

You said there was 7-9 players better than Kobe in 05.

I asked you to name them.

You won't because you know you'll get flamed to death

 

[GreatestLaker]

I've forgotten more than you'll ever learn from realgm, young man

Now Duncan was in the discussion for '08? Funny, you just had a whole drawn out debate about the top 5 in '08 and neither you nor anyone you were arguing with mentioned Duncan. Keep switching up your stance though, its hilarious.

Paul Pierce accomplished more and will go down in the history books as better than Tracy McGrady. That's all that matters. I don't give a shyt about hypothetical 1-on-1 battles. Save that for RealGM./

No, I listed 3 players that were better than KG in 08. Kobe, Lebron and Paul. I never said anything about the top 5 players. Duncan wasn't better than KG. I see you have a difficult time comprehending.

 

[GreatestLaker]

You said there was 7-9 players better than Kobe in 05.

I asked you to name them.

You won't because you know you'll get flamed to death

Wow you really are an idiot. You have a difficult time with reading and comprehending too I see.

This is what I said.

Chris Paul isn't better than Kobe Bryant? What the fukk are you smoking?

Chris Paul is top 3 in the NBA easily.

2005 was an off year for Kobe. His defense was terrible and shooting percentage was deplorable. He was on the 3rd all-nba team for a reason. He was suffering from Plantar fasciitis for the entire season and missed 16 games after severely spraining his ankle. Lakers even missed the playoffs for the second time in its franchise's history. He didn't get one MVP vote that year. Most if not all NBA analysts were saying that Kobe was overrated, he was carried by Shaq, you couldn't build a team around him etc. At the end of the year most of the player rankings done by foxsports, espn, slam etc. had him ranked as the 7th to 9th best player in the NBA. He used all that as motivation and came out a beast the following year. But all of that did happen. So don't post stats from that year and act like he didn't receive shyt from everyone because of that performance.

How old are you man? Any NBA fan should know this. That happened just 7 years ago. Stop with this revisionist history shyt. That shyt don't fly with me.

The dumbasses on this site.

 

[YBE]

fukk outta here nikka. you agreed with that sh*t. you typed that sh*t insinuating that Kobe was some scrub that everybody else was sh*tting on.

Steve Nash better than Kobe in 05
Wade better than Kobe in 05
Shaq better than Kobe in 05
Amare better than Kobe in 05

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

No, I listed 3 players that were better than KG in 08. Kobe, Lebron and Paul. I never said anything about the top 5 players. Duncan wasn't better than KG. I see you have a difficult time comprehending.

And maybe Dirk, right?

So lets see if we can add

Kobe
Lebron
Paul
Dirk
KG

Looks like you got your top 5. Now you go back and say Duncan was in the discussion to protect your flawed theory, and yet you had this whole debate with 3 or 4 other posters and Duncan was literally not mentioned at all. He wasn't in the discussion!

 

[GreatestLaker]

fukk outta here nikka. you agreed with that sh*t. you typed that sh*t insinuating that Kobe was some scrub that everybody else was sh*tting on.

Steve Nash better than Kobe in 05
Wade better than Kobe in 05
Shaq better than Kobe in 05
Amare better than Kobe in 05

What part of Kobe was suffering from Plantar fasciitis that entire year you don't understand? He was terrible on both ends that year. His defense was the worst since his rookie season. He couldn't guard anyone. Duncan was suffering from Plantar fasciitis in 06 too and he was no where as good as he was in 05 or in 07.

Kobe didn't play like a top 5 player that year. That's why he was on the third all-nba team, but you are either too young to understand this or you just an idiot.

 

[GreatestLaker]

And maybe Dirk, right?

So lets see if we can add

Kobe
Lebron
Paul
Dirk
KG

Looks like you got your top 5. Now you go back and say Duncan was in the discussion to protect your flawed theory, and yet you had this whole debate with 3 or 4 other posters and Duncan was literally not mentioned at all. He wasn't in the discussion!

Duncan was without a doubt top 5 in 07. Was 4th in MVP voting and was on the 1st all-nba and defensive teams. In 2008 he was in the discussion.

Paul emerged as a superstar, Dirk added a post game, KG was KG, Kobe was Kobe and Lebron grew as a defender and as a overall player. His case for top 5 wasn't as strong, but he was in the discussion. But you are too ignorant to understand that.