Looks like we may have just got 'The List' of MLB players who tested posted for Steroids in 2003

Mantis Toboggan M.D.

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I’m fine with keeping the guys out of the HOF that lied about their use or won’t admit to it.

There has to be some standard of gatekeeping the integrity of the game.

Bud Selig as owner of the Brewers openly colluded with the other owners to lowball top free agent players in the 1980s', backed his same buddy buddy owner network that caused the '94 Lockout, then rode the coattails of the players back to baseballs revival in the late 90s. He was elected to the Hall of Fame by some committee with like 95% of the vote.

I was growing up in the 2000's so I wasnt fully aware to how big of a thing this was, but I'm sure it sucked to have the suspected users constantly lie to the public's face and then embarass themselves when they had to testify to Congress.

Still IMO there's still no reason for them not to be on the same ballots that include the managers and owners of that era whose win tallys and income benefited directly from those same player's production
So long as bud selig is in the hall, no integrity clause can be invoked to keep people out of Cooperstown. Nobody has done more harm to baseball post integration than he has.
 

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At this point, only person that would make me feel a way if it came out they were juicing would be Griffey.

Seeing Pedro on that list is surprising though
 

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None of these a$$holes want to give credit to that era for saving baseball after the owners staged a coup against Faye Vincent and made bud selig commissioner who played a big role in the strike that canceled the 1994 playoffs entirely and nearly killed baseball entirely. fukk anyone who votes against the greats of the 90’s & 2000’s over that shyt. Those guys saved the owners from themselves. Note how no other sport cares about PED tests anyway. Julius Peppers failed a test his rookie year for example and nobody cares, nor does anyone refuse to give him his due as one of the great defensive linemen of his era or any era for that matter. There wasn’t even a ban on most of these substances at the time anyway.
Because nobody thinks anyone can get through a football season without taking something.


That and fans aren’t interested in the well being of athletes. We’re too busy resenting them due to their salaries.
 
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