Looks like Trey Songz put hands on Jacquees and pulled out his dreads in Dubai, Jac says he’s banned from South, especially Atlanta

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Right - its like saying New York is the least New Englandish region in New England - which is true - but its still New England.
Going west in New York the New England influence starts to fade, like Buffalo and Niagara New Yorkers accents don't sound like Brooklyn/Queens New Yorkers but ain't enough great lake culture in west new york to sway the overall influence NYC has over the whole state.

And NoVA is so full of transplanted people they want it to be "not south" so bad. The DC metro influence is there but it aint enough to keep VA as a whole from being the South. Just like homos and J3ws in Dade/Broward counties have people thinking Florida has turned some kind of page when more of Florida is like Gainesville than Boca Raton. New Yorkers been moving to Southern VA and NC for decades now but they aint swaying the culture that much to "un-south" a region.

There is always nuance and academic/military/government hubs can make it seem like a regional culture is shifting (Raleigh, NoVA, Huntsville, etc) but it takes generations to shift an entire states culture and those generations have to reject the old ways. And this is all modern logic.

I live in the Bay Area now and stay amazed how these hippies keep replicating and regenerating when the 1960s was so long ago.
No it isn't...
 
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Right - its like saying New York is the least New Englandish region in New England - which is true - but its still New England.
Going west in New York the New England influence starts to fade, like Buffalo and Niagara New Yorkers accents don't sound like Brooklyn/Queens New Yorkers but ain't enough great lake culture in west new york to sway the overall influence NYC has over the whole state.

And NoVA is so full of transplanted people they want it to be "not south" so bad. The DC metro influence is there but it aint enough to keep VA as a whole from being the South. Just like homos and J3ws in Dade/Broward counties have people thinking Florida has turned some kind of page when more of Florida is like Gainesville than Boca Raton. New Yorkers been moving to Southern VA and NC for decades now but they aint swaying the culture that much to "un-south" a region.

There is always nuance and academic/military/government hubs can make it seem like a regional culture is shifting (Raleigh, NoVA, Huntsville, etc) but it takes generations to shift an entire states culture and those generations have to reject the old ways. And this is all modern logic.

I live in the Bay Area now and stay amazed how these hippies keep replicating and regenerating when the 1960s was so long ago.
New York isn't New England lol
 

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I don't disagree with you that Virginia is southern. All of Virginia, I hate when people try to section off NoVa, its just as culturally Virginian as the rest of The Commonwealth...

But, I do understand when people question how southern it is. There's a pretty noticeable contrast in degree of southern, from most of Virginia, to most of NC. VA isn't "the North" but it's uniquely southern in the sense that it's less southern than any other southern state...
Agreed

Unless we counting Maryland as the south then my Nod goes to them as the most "un- southern" southern state.
 

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I'm speaking real world terms.
You speaking like a young dude who thinks their thoughts rep the majority - they don't.
Maryland is still the south
Virginia is still the south
You gonna need at least 2-3 more generations of people born in Maryland and Virginia (with no kin/connection to deeper parts of the south) before the southern influence goes away.
You're not even close - I was born in North Carolina, went to Hampton and lived in Maryland for over 20 years.
The vast majority of the culture (black & white) is still very very southern.
You need way more people ...literally and figuratively
Yeah I didn’t feel like I was in the south when I lived in DC, especially now fully living in Atlanta there’s really no comparison
 
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New York isn't New England lol
My bad, typo - i meant NYC not New York.
Only in describing the regional cultural nuance and how modernization, regionalism and transplants will make something seem different than what it is.
And it was definitely in reference to the NoVa vs Virginia , South Florida vs Florida, NYC vs New York thing which is definitely real.
 

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This nikka is barely taller than Danny devito talking about someone banned. If you don’t sit your short pants ass in a corner and go beg birdman to release another mixtape :mjlol:
 
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Yeah I didn’t feel like I was in the south when I lived in DC, especially now fully living in Atlanta there’s really no comparison

Technically DC was never the south and a big part of its black population moved into Maryland after DC burned and during white flight in the 1970s.
And since black folks could own business in DC even in the 18th century there is a lot of old black money in the DC metro area.
 

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Man why does this come up every year on here.
Sh1t is so goofy....
Virginia is the south, it was the largest slave state in the US.
Maryland is the south

The Mason-Dixon line is between Pennsylvania and Maryland making Maryland the northernmost SOUTHERN state.
EVERYBODY's grandparents on here knows this and never had a problem with it.
Its only younger folks who want to move the goalposts.
Recency bias and the fact transplants have changed a bit of the regional culture (specifically the whole Chesapeake corridor Maryland to North Carolina) doesn't change the major demographic is still THE SOUTH.

Just like no matter how many j3wish people, latin people and homos live in (mostly southern) Florida - its gonna be a LONG LONG LONG time before Florida is not the DEEP SOUTH culturally politically and socially.

N1ggas come on this site trying to redefine everything.
NO disrespect but GTFOH with that.
The south has always started at Maryland - ALWAYS - and it hasn't changed.

The Mason Dixon line has nothing to do with the north and the south though. It was the dividing line for MD and PA, as Maryland was to extend father north and Philly would have been in Maryland, leaving PA without that major port city. (Maryland already has a major port city with B-More).The people who surveyed and divided the land were Mason and Dixon, they didn’t draw the line to distinguish north and south. Delaware gets lost in the mix as well, as it sits below the mason dixon line and I’ve never heard anyone refer to Delaware as the South.
 
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The Mason Dixon line has nothing to do with the north and the south though. It was the dividing line for MD and PA, as Maryland was to extend father north and Philly would have been in Maryland, leaving PA without that major port city. (Maryland already has a major port city with B-More).The people who surveyed and divided the land were Mason and Dixon, they didn’t draw the line to distinguish north and south. Delaware gets lost in the mix as well, as it sits below the mason dixon line and I’ve never heard anyone refer to Delaware as the South.

the mason-dixon line is history 101 defining the north and south from a historical perspective. tobacco fields, slaves, the fact that Maryland wanted to secede but Lincoln intervened - these are the historical definitions.
Maryland is a border state no question - but its SOUTH of the border.
"Maryland My Maryland" which is still a state song talks about rebuking the 'northern scum'

The US census bureau still includes Maryland as part of the south (south atlantic region)

I'm done talking about this.
 
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