FluffyEyes
Mrs. Boss Lady
So Jacquees didn't care about Trey being a rapist until he snatched him up by his locs?? Interesting. I would've took this to my grave.
Looks like Trey Songz put hands on Jacquees and pulled out his dreads in Dubai, Jac says he’s banned from South, especially Atlanta
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submarine1
Pro
Man why does this come up every year on here.
Sh1t is so goofy....
Virginia is the south, it was the largest slave state in the US.
Maryland is the south
The Mason-Dixon line is between Pennsylvania and Maryland making Maryland the northernmost SOUTHERN state.
EVERYBODY's grandparents on here knows this and never had a problem with it.
Its only younger folks who want to move the goalposts.
Recency bias and the fact transplants have changed a bit of the regional culture (specifically the whole Chesapeake corridor Maryland to North Carolina) doesn't change the major demographic is still THE SOUTH.
Just like no matter how many j3wish people, latin people and homos live in (mostly southern) Florida - its gonna be a LONG LONG LONG time before Florida is not the DEEP SOUTH culturally politically and socially.
N1ggas come on this site trying to redefine everything.
NO disrespect but GTFOH with that.
The south has always started at Maryland - ALWAYS - and it hasn't changed.
duckbutta
eienaar van mans
So this is what men doing to men in 2024...pulling each others dreads out 
Why he take a picture of the dreads on the floor like its exhibit A of a crime or some shyt
And banned from the whole south
So you telling me if Trey pull up to a waffle house in Houston its going to be people there like "there go that nikka who pulled Jacquees dreads out. Get em
In 2023 men were open hand slapping men on stage and now in 2024 men pulling men hair out...not sure if we going forward or backwards with this one
Why he take a picture of the dreads on the floor like its exhibit A of a crime or some shyt
And banned from the whole south
So you telling me if Trey pull up to a waffle house in Houston its going to be people there like "there go that nikka who pulled Jacquees dreads out. Get em
In 2023 men were open hand slapping men on stage and now in 2024 men pulling men hair out...not sure if we going forward or backwards with this one
submarine1
Pro
I'm speaking real world terms.
You speaking like a young dude who thinks their thoughts rep the majority - they don't.
Maryland is still the south
Virginia is still the south
You gonna need at least 2-3 more generations of people born in Maryland and Virginia (with no kin/connection to deeper parts of the south) before the southern influence goes away.
You're not even close - I was born in North Carolina, went to Hampton and lived in Maryland for over 20 years.
The vast majority of the culture (black & white) is still very very southern.
You need way more people ...literally and figuratively
Nope
VA/Maryland is the DMV which is the North East corridor
The south begins in North Carolina
submarine1
Pro
you just talking to be talking
Maryland and Virginia been the south and the overwhelming majority of residents there still say its the south.
you can think whatever you want but even the politicians know who there base is, the northeast is a geographical region, the SOUTH is a cultural region.
And if you wanna mention DMV nobody says northeast , the DMV is mid-atlantic, northeast is New England.
but please keep reimagining the eastern seaboard however you see fit
murksiderock
Superstar
Most people in Virginia will concede that it's the South, but it's definitely a different Northeast-laced type of South, as compared to when you get below the VA border. It's the South historically, of course. Time changes perception of shyt all the time...
The days are long gone where VA or Maryland are indisputably considered southern. It's definitely disputable in a practical sense, even if the majority of people call it the South. This isn't 1865 or 1975 anymore. Virginia has a lot more in common with its Northeast neighbors than anywhere to it's south. That doesn't exclude it from being a southern state, but the relations to its northern neighbors are why people question how southern it is today...
People from further south like Jacquees question VA's southern identity because people from further south can instantly tell when they hit VA that it's not quite the kinda south they used to------>same way people from the Northeast hit VA and instantly are aware they are in the South...
The days are long gone where VA or Maryland are indisputably considered southern. It's definitely disputable in a practical sense, even if the majority of people call it the South. This isn't 1865 or 1975 anymore. Virginia has a lot more in common with its Northeast neighbors than anywhere to it's south. That doesn't exclude it from being a southern state, but the relations to its northern neighbors are why people question how southern it is today...
People from further south like Jacquees question VA's southern identity because people from further south can instantly tell when they hit VA that it's not quite the kinda south they used to------>same way people from the Northeast hit VA and instantly are aware they are in the South...
I lived in NOVA after moving from the North and it struck me how different it was in many ways e.g. Confederate name streets and monuments, no white ethnics, no large dense older cities, everything looking brand new, little to no local culture, etc. Virginia Beach and Norfolk are also clearly Southern.
I take your last point about perceptions but I really don't see any cultural similarities between NOVA / Virginia and the Northeast . there's just a lot of diversity and transplants from the north there.
murksiderock
Superstar
I don't disagree with you that Virginia is southern. All of Virginia, I hate when people try to section off NoVa, its just as culturally Virginian as the rest of The Commonwealth...
But, I do understand when people question how southern it is. There's a pretty noticeable contrast in degree of southern, from most of Virginia, to most of NC. VA isn't "the North" but it's uniquely southern in the sense that it's less southern than any other southern state...
You see it
submarine1
Pro
Right - its like saying New York is the least New Englandish region in New England - which is true - but its still New England.
Going west in New York the New England influence starts to fade, like Buffalo and Niagara New Yorkers accents don't sound like Brooklyn/Queens New Yorkers but ain't enough great lake culture in west new york to sway the overall influence NYC has over the whole state.
And NoVA is so full of transplanted people they want it to be "not south" so bad. The DC metro influence is there but it aint enough to keep VA as a whole from being the South. Just like homos and J3ws in Dade/Broward counties have people thinking Florida has turned some kind of page when more of Florida is like Gainesville than Boca Raton. New Yorkers been moving to Southern VA and NC for decades now but they aint swaying the culture that much to "un-south" a region.
There is always nuance and academic/military/government hubs can make it seem like a regional culture is shifting (Raleigh, NoVA, Huntsville, etc) but it takes generations to shift an entire states culture and those generations have to reject the old ways. And this is all modern logic.
I live in the Bay Area now and stay amazed how these hippies keep replicating and regenerating when the 1960s was so long ago.