lookin back, how did Eli not catch more **** for the 04 draft?

[HARLEM AL]

N1ggas wasnt watching enough football. Duke was getting shytted on. Especially his first couple of years.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Elaborate. The Lakers had the first pick and drafted Magic if I'm not mistaken.


And Steve Francis pulled the same move Eli did (though about five years earlier) and got shytted on heavily for it.

He definitively stated that if Chicago won the coin toss, he would just go back to college. After his sophomore season, he was adamant about only wanting to play with "Kareem" because he was the greatest in the league and that he knew they could win right away.

Trust, if the Bulls would have won the coin flip, Magic would have been drafted in 1980. Everyone wants to play with great players and win. Aint none of them old cats throwing shots at Lebron built or won nothing on their own. None of em

 

[GoPro]

N1ggas wasnt watching enough football. Duke was getting shytted on. Especially his first couple of years.

Exactly. Cats still complaining 8 years after the fact have short term memories cause Eli was roasted for a MINUTE due to his bossing up.

"How dare this little twat"
"This sets a bad precedent"
"The Mannings think they own football"

Its only now that he's defeated the Empire twice that he's being sucked off by the media.

Stop bytching and kiss the rings, hoes.

 

[23Barrettcity]

NFL had to been in on it....ensured they would have a relevant NY team until he retires...do u nikkaz even think?

What type of dumb shyt is this ? the giants were already relevant hell we picked up Kurt Warner to start for Eli that year anyway

 

[23Barrettcity]

Exactly. Cats still complaining 8 years after the fact have short term memories cause Eli was roasted for a MINUTE due to his bossing up.

"How dare this little twat"
"This sets a bad precedent"
"The Mannings think they own football"

Its only now that he's defeated the Empire twice that he's being sucked off by the media.

Stop bytching and kiss the rings, hoes.

Eli was getting killed even after he won the ring People don't remember the past they acting like Eli was getting love for years . People still said rivers , romo, vick was better than Eli last year until he was blatantly carrying the team all year .
They called the first ring lucky and laughed at his elite statement

 

[Digga38]

What type of dumb shyt is this ? the giants were already relevant hell we picked up Kurt Warner to start for Eli that year anyway

yea and we all see how that turned out....

 

[Formerly known as...]

He won.

Chargers still haven't won shyt and he has 2 rings. Even he knew San Diego was not a good place to be

 

[OG Talk]

As it's been said numerous times before... The people that control the narrative look like him....

 

[FTBS]

1. Complexion for the protection

2. Famous family

3. Went to NY

4. Won 2 rings


No way could a black QB get away with some shyt like this. Prolly still wouldn't have worked out if it wasn't for the influence of the Manning name. It's worked out though so .

 

[23Barrettcity]

yea and we all see how that turned out....

The point is the giants were already relevant and Warner was 5-4 when he got benched . I'm not sure what weird conspiracy your talking about but it didn't happen at all . The giants were always relevant bro

 

[23Barrettcity]

As it's been said numerous times before... The people that control the narrative look like him....

1. Complexion for the protection

2. Famous family

3. Went to NY

4. Won 2 rings


No way could a black QB get away with some shyt like this. Prolly still wouldn't have worked out if it wasn't for the influence of the Manning name. It's worked out though so .

What are you guys talking about he didn't get a pass at all You guys with trying to bring race into everything . By his 4th season he won a ring that was the turning point but even then rivers was still thought of better than Eli due to his stats . Go to google there are plenty of articles killing him hell when he played the chargers they were shyttng on him and crowning I think aj smith .
Do we still hear bout ray Lewis ? Or Vick ? Or even big Ben still ?

 

[OG Talk]

What are you guys talking about he didn't get a pass at all You guys with trying to bring race into everything . By his 4th season he won a ring that was the turning point but even then rivers was still thought of better than Eli due to his stats . Go to google there are plenty of articles killing him hell when he played the chargers they were shyttng on him and crowning I think aj smith .
Do we still hear bout ray Lewis ? Or Vick ? Or even big Ben still ?

 

[23Barrettcity]

You Can post all the smilies you want you imbecile the bottom line is this thread is stupid cause he got lots of Grief at the time so if you can't argue against what I'm saying go that way im a giant fan and ive been a Eli fan since jump and one of the only giant fans I know to defend him 2 years ago with that 25 pick season so stop it .

 

[OG Talk]

You Can post all the smilies you want you imbecile the bottom line is this thread is stupid cause he got lots of Grief at the time so if you can't argue against what I'm saying go that way im a giant fan and ive been a Eli fan since jump and one of the only giant fans I know to defend him 2 years ago with that 25 pick season so stop it .

Am I supposed to get into an argument about how my perception differs from yours?

 

[Megatron Island]

Pretty much why not only Eli, but even FA's don't want to go to SD:
All on AJ Smith

Some parts of the article:

But if you want the root cause of the Chargers' decline, both in this game and over the last few years, you need look no further than the desk of executive vice-president and general manager A.J. Smith. Under Smith, who's been in charge of personnel for the team since 2003, the Chargers haven't made the playoffs since 2009, and the records have receded every year -- from 13-3 in 2009, to 9-7 in 2010, to 8-8 in 2011. San Diego stands at 3-3 after their loss to the Broncos, and they don't look like a team that will finish this year with a .500 record or better.

The answer to the obvious question -- why has this happened? -- can be found with just a cursory look at Smith's track record in the last few seasons. His last few drafts have provided little in terms of long-term elite talent, he's alienated many of the team's best free agents and veterans, and the inexplicable arrogance (it's only confidence if it works) in the face of his own questionable decisions defies logic at times.
When asked to explain the second-round choice of Michigan linebacker Jonas Mouton in the 2011 NFL draft despite the fact that most people had Mouton with a third-day grade, Smith was typically succinct.
"I'm told I can't find one person who thought the linebacker we took in the second round wasn't a fifth- or sixth-round guy," he told Nick Canepa of the San Diego Union-Tribune.*"Well, I've found one guy. Me. He's a second-rounder here."
Sadly, Mouton had his first season wiped out by a shoulder injury, but he still hasn't started a single NFL game. Smith's frequent trade-ups in the draft so decimated the team's depth that in 2010, the Chargers posted the worst special teams DVOA (Football Outsiders' efficiency metric) since the 2000 Buffalo Bills. Special teams is about more than punters, kickers, and returners -- often, it's the best indicator of the talent residing on the bottom third of your roster.

In many ways, Smith's last few years with the Chargers seem similar to the decline and fall of the recent Indianapolis Colts empire. Like Smith, former Colts team president Bill Polian had a justified and legitimate reputation in the league based on the brilliant personnel work he'd done in the past. But a series of bad drafts, and the ultimate ideal that the man up top was more important than most of the guys on the field, set the Colts on the wrong path and closed their window before it had to be. The loss of Peyton Manning to injury was a killer, but the alarming lack of depth on the roster Polian had built really led to the Colts' demise. The 2008 New England Patriots went 11-5 without Tom Brady; the 2011 Colts went 2-14 without Manning.

Turner, who looked like someone had just stolen his car, isn't really at fault for all of this. In truth, he shouldn't be in this position, and he wouldn't be if Smith understood that malleability isn't the primary attribute one seeks in a head coach. You'll remember, of course, that Smith helped make the call to fire Marty Schottenheimer after a 14-2 record in 2006, the best mark in the franchise's long history. Smith and Schottenheimer had been at odds for years, in part because Schottenheimer dared to make recommendations regarding personnel.

Because really why wouldn't FA's want to go to San Diego? Beatiful city, densely populated, diverse, Los Angeles is an hour away, etc. It's the owner that scares them off. Just look at the way he handled LT.