Look how far Cacs went to claim Kemet

[GetInTheTruck]

Nope.

How is that not true?

 

[Poitier]

How is that not true?

Its been well-established that the Nile was populated by West and Central African populations, along with Cushytic and Nilo-Saharan people.

This idea that Asia and Europe had contact with Egypt but not the other parts of Africa is purely Eurocentric.

I've already posted 4 videos showing links between Africa and Egypt.

There is also this

 

[Poitier]

DNA Evidence On Egyptian Pharaohs: Ramses III A Sub-Saharan African Black

• Dec. 4, 2013

A 2012 study done on the mummified remains of Ramesses III and his son determined that both y-chromosomes belonged to Haplogroup E1b1a (Y-DNA). The pharaoh’s y-chromosome belongs to the most frequent haplogroup among contemporary Sub-Saharan y-chromosomes.[22] -Wikipedia

Also anyone who dares deny Ramesses III having E1b1a should note that E1b1a is found in Sudan at 20%… Also presence of severe sickle cell found in the mummies would strongly suggest its (E1b1a’s, that is) presence is not a result of more recent events.


They found Benin sickle cell in Ancient Egyptian mummies, after all:
“We conducted a molecular investigation of the presence of sicklemia in six predynastic Egyptian mummies (about 3200 BC) from the Anthropological and Ethnographic Museum of Turin. Previous studies of these remains showed the presence of severe anemia, while histological preparations of mummified tissues revealed hemolytic disorders.”
- Marin et. al. 1999, Use of the Amplification Refractory Mutation System (ARMS) in the Study of HbS in Predynastic Egyptian Remains.”

Here is a map of where sickle cell comes from: http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s417/King…

Like the paper says, they had severe sickle cell. And this wouldn’t be the only thing challenging a more recent spread of E1b1a to the region. Less severe sickle cell exists (though it’s not what they found).

“The Benin haplotype was found in patients with severe disease, either as homozygous or in combination with another haplotype. The majority of Syrians and Jordanians had the Benin haplotype, and severe disease. However, one in three Syrians and one in five Jordanians had a milder disease, and the Saudi-Indian haplotype was identified.” – el-Hazmi et. al. 1999, Haplotypes of the beta-globin gene as prognostic factors in sickle-cell disease

Also you know, West Africa has a connection straight to Egypt & Sudan. Africa once had a third great River besides the Nile and Ñiger Rivers which was infact connected straight to the Ñiger River through Lake Chad, one of Africa’s great lakes along with Lake Victoria. Clearly these acted as significant pumps for people when one considers that the Nile River goes straight to its source in mountainous Northern Ethiopia, the “Mountain of the Moon”, which is where the Ancient Egyptians said they came from.
Here is a map of the now non-existent River: http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s417/King…

Also 2013 is going to be way worse for Eurocentrics. Because more mummies are going to be tested. That’s what a poster named beyoku from biodiversity forum said. – Topix





Read more: http://newsrescue.com/dna-evidence-...ii-a-sub-saharan-african-black/#ixzz3DsUORhdL

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Its been well-established that the Nile was populated by West and Central African populations, along with Cushytic and Nilo-Saharan people.

This idea that Asia and Europe had contact with Egypt but not the other parts of Africa is purely Eurocentric.

I've already posted 4 videos showing links between Africa and Egypt.

There is also this

I meant culturally. It doesn't make Egypt any less African to note that they were a unique civilization. Eurocentrics use this to try and de-africanize Egypt, but that's not what I'm doing.

 

[Camile.Bidan]

Egypt is a completely African Civilization.... yet.

Wheat Domestication, horse-cart fighting, Beer, Cattle, Dogs, Farming, Written language, and Civilization itself originated in Central Asia/West Asia and spread throughout the Western Hemisphere with the spread of the Near-Eastern Indo-Aryans in the west and the Spread the East Asian Austronesian/Chinese Farmers in the east.

Hilarious.

 

[Poitier]

Egypt is a completely African Civilization.... yet.

Wheat Domestication, horse-cart fighting, Beer, Cattle, Dogs, Farming, Written language, and Civilization itself originated in Central Asia/West Asia and spread throughout the Western Hemisphere with the spread of the Near-Eastern Indo-Aryans in the west and the Spread the East Asian Austronesian/Chinese Farmers in the east.

Hilarious.

You are the biggest comedian on this forum

 

[Poitier]

Wheat Domestication

The people in Turkey who domesticated wheat were not Indo-European.

horse-cart fighting

The Hittites did bring the Chariot. Good for them.

Beer

Is this suppose to be an achievement?

Cattle

Nubian cattle culture ring any bells?

Dogs

Ever heard of Anubis?

Farming

The people in Turkey who came up with agriculture were not Indo-European. In fact, gobekli tepe has shattered any timeline of agriculture.

Written language

Khoi click language and Afro-Asiatic came out of West Asia? LOL

Civilization

Nubia, Yam and Egypt are all in Africa. Sumer were not Semites nor Indo-Europeans.

 

[Ndiema]

Its been well-established that the Nile was populated by West and Central African populations, along with Cushytic and Nilo-Saharan people.

This idea that Asia and Europe had contact with Egypt but not the other parts of Africa is purely Eurocentric.

I've already posted 4 videos showing links between Africa and Egypt.

There is also this

What do they mean by Great lakes and southern african?there are different groups in those regions.

 

[Poitier]

What do they mean by Great lakes and southern african?there are different groups in those regions.

Thats the point.

The Bantu, Nilo-Saharan, Cushytic mixes in those regions reflect the diverse African tribes that inherited the Nile.

 

[Camile.Bidan]

Beer was a main staple of the Egyptian Diet.

The invention of bread and/or beer has been argued to be responsible for humanity's ability to develop technology and build civilization.[2][3][4] The earliest chemically confirmed barley beer to date was discovered at Godin Tepe in the central Zagros Mountains of Iran, where fragments of a jug, at least 5000 years old was found to be coated with beerstone, a by-product of the brewing process.[5]

Looks like Beer is associated with Indo-European people.

The people in Turkey who domesticated wheat were not Indo-European.

how do you know that?

Nubian cattle culture ring any bells?

Cattle occupy a unique role in human history, domesticated since at least the early Neolithic.

Geneticists and anthropologists used to suspect that, 10,000 years ago, Africans domesticated local cattle. A study was done by University of Missouri researchers reported that ancient domesticated African cattle originated from multiple regions, in the middle-east and India.[44] A study on 134 breeds showed that today's cattle originates from Africa, Asia, North and South America, Australia, and Europe.[45] According to McTavish et (2013) some researchers have suggested that African taurine cattle are derived from a third independent domestication from North African aurochsen.[46]

Other modern genetic research suggests the entire modern domestic stock may have arisen from as few as 80 aurochs tamed in the upper reaches of Mesopotamia about 10,500 years ago near the villages of Çayönü Tepesi in southeastern Turkey and Dja'de el-Mughara in northern Iraq.[2]

They are raised for meat (beef cattle), dairy products and hides. They are also used as draft animals and in certain sports. Some consider cattle the oldest form of wealth, and cattle raiding consequently one of the earliest forms of theft.

http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2013/131108/ncomms3755/full/ncomms3755.html

Morphological and genetic evidence for early Holocene cattle management in northeastern China

Hucai Zhang et al.

The domestication of cattle is generally accepted to have taken place in two independent centres: around 10,500 years ago in the Near East, giving rise to modern taurine cattle, and two millennia later in southern Asia, giving rise to zebu cattle. Here we provide firmly dated morphological and genetic evidence for early Holocene management of taurine cattle in northeastern China. We describe conjoining mandibles from this region that show evidence of oral stereotypy, dated to the early Holocene by two independent 14C dates. Using Illumina high-throughput sequencing coupled with DNA hybridization capture, we characterize 15,406 bp of the mitogenome with on average 16.7-fold coverage. Phylogenetic analyses reveal a hitherto unknown mitochondrial haplogroup that falls outside the known taurine diversity. Our data suggest that the first attempts to manage cattle in northern China predate the introduction of domestic cattle that gave rise to the current stock by several thousand years.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Egypt is a completely African Civilization.... yet.

Wheat Domestication, horse-cart fighting, Beer, Cattle, Dogs, Farming, Written language, and Civilization itself originated in Central Asia/West Asia and spread throughout the Western Hemisphere with the spread of the Near-Eastern Indo-Aryans in the west and the Spread the East Asian Austronesian/Chinese Farmers in the east.

Hilarious.

None of this means Egypt wasnt an African civilization.

 

[Poitier]

Beer was a main staple of the Egyptian Diet.

Ever heard of this thing called trading?

how do you know that?

Because we know the Hittites were the 1st Indo-Europeans in the region around 2000 BC.

http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2013/131108/ncomms3755/full/ncomms3755.html

A study on 134 breeds showed that today's cattle originates from Africa, Asia, North and South America, Australia, and Europe.[45] According to McTavish et (2013) some researchers have suggested that African taurine cattle are derived from a third independent domestication from North African aurochsen.[46]


Abstract
The domestication and development of cattle has considerably impacted human societies, but the histories of cattle breeds and populations have been poorly understood especially for African, Asian, and American breeds. Using genotypes from 43,043 autosomal single nucleotide polymorphism markers scored in 1,543 animals, we evaluate the population structure of 134 domesticated bovid breeds. Regardless of the analytical method or sample subset, the three major groups of Asian indicine, Eurasian taurine, and African taurine were consistently observed. Patterns of geographic dispersal resulting from co-migration with humans and exportation are recognizable in phylogenetic networks. All analytical methods reveal patterns of hybridization which occurred after divergence. Using 19 breeds, we map the cline of indicine introgression into Africa. We infer that African taurine possess a large portion of wild African auroch ancestry, causing their divergence from Eurasian taurine. We detect exportation patterns in Asia and identify a cline of Eurasian taurine/indicine hybridization in Asia. We also identify the influence of species other than Bos taurus taurus and B. t. indicus in the formation of Asian breeds. We detect the pronounced influence of Shorthorn cattle in the formation of European breeds. Iberian and Italian cattle possess introgression from African taurine. American Criollo cattle originate from Iberia, and not directly from Africa with African ancestry inherited via Iberian ancestors. Indicine introgression into American cattle occurred in the Americas, and not Europe. We argue that cattle migration, movement and trading followed by admixture have been important forces in shaping modern bovine genomic variation.

http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pgen.1004254

 

[Poitier]

 

[Camile.Bidan]

None of this means Egypt wasnt an African civilization.

I didn't say wasn't an African Civilization. It's clearly located in Africa.

I know one thing.

It wasn't Started by Bantu West Africans.

They spoke a Semitic Language.

Semitic Speakers in Horn Africa are clearly Admixed. This was shown by DNA tribes, and this was shown in a massive global admixture study published in Dec 2013.



Personally, I think Egypt was created when Native Africans met invading Groups from the West Asia and Central Asia. They were a people of mixed blood. Notice, I never said that one subjugated the other.

Black people want to completely Erase the west Asian influence in Egypt, which is just as bad as White people who want to completely erase the Sub-Saharan influence into Egypt.

When it comes down to it, African Americans have little to no association with Egypt, or the Black people who created Egypt. African Americans are descendents of the Bantu expansion. An expansion that may have wiped-out previously existing African Groups and forced the groups like the Bushman further south into Exile.


Only the Fulani descendants maybe might have a case for Egypt. Less than 5% percent of African Americans come from the Fulani.

However, on every black Site on the internet, there a numerous references to Egypt and how there is some sort of conspiracy to against BANTU west Africans who want to claim that Egypt was built by their "ancestors".

Can Egypt really stand-up against Rome or the British Empire in terms of accomplishments? What do white people have to gain by saying Egypt was built by Arabic people or West Asians?

 

[Poitier]

It wasn't Started by Bantu West Africans.

Bantus don't live in West Africa. Ironically, Bantus do live in Horn Africa.

They spoke a Semitic Language.

You mean Semitic which is under Afro-Asiatic and I'll let you guess where that originates

Semitic Speakers in Horn Africa are clearly Admixed.

Who isn't? Cushytic people are no more mixed than African Americans. Are African Americans Caucasian?

Personally, I think Egypt was created when Native Africans met invading Groups from the West Asia and Central Asia. They were a people of mixed blood. Notice, I never said that one subjugated the other.

Black people want to completely Erase the west Asian influence in Egypt, which is just as bad as White people who want to completely erase the Sub-Saharan influence into Egypt.

Let me know when White Americans acknowledge Black Americans influence in America and globally

When it comes down to it, African Americans have little to no association with Egypt, or the Black people who created Egypt. African Americans are descendents of the Bantu expansion. An expansion that may have wiped-out previously existing African Groups and forced the groups like the Bushman further south into Exile.

Most African Americans are Mande, not Bantu.

Can Egypt really stand-up against Rome or the British Empire in terms of accomplishments? What do white people have to gain by saying Egypt was built by Arabic people or West Asians?

Since it lasted much longer and its monuments still stand, I'd say yes