Look how far Cacs went to claim Kemet

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Its possible breh. Understand that Mesopotamia does not refer to one specific civilization but the land (modern day iraq) that a number of civilisations arose. The sumerians were the first of those civilisations and they sprang up around the time of the egyptians. But i dont think anyone knows for a fact which formed first.



Lol breh, they werent black, they were middle eastern.
Brown and white or just purely brown ppl?
 

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Brown and white or just purely brown ppl?

They were some arab looking people for the most part.

I'd contest this. Mesopotamia was multi-racial.

If by mixed you mean like with some other non black group like Dravidian, then maybe, especially with the sumerians. But mixed with africans :patrice:, unlikely breh. All the depictions the egyptians left of mesopatomians portrayed them as some arab nikkas lol.
 

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If by mixed you mean like with some other non black group like Dravidian, then maybe, especially with the sumerians. But mixed with africans :patrice:, unlikely breh. All the depictions the egyptians left of mesopatomians portrayed them as some arab nikkas lol.

Mesopotamia spanned 1000s of years and multiple clans. The Elamites are not the Hittites, for example, and are thought to be Proto-Dravidian. I'd say Dravidians are Black but not African, though African substrates exist in Dravidian culture. I would not be shocked if the Ubaidians in Sumer were African like the Natufians in the Levant.
 

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Mesopotamia spanned 1000s of years and multiple clans. The Elamites are not the Hittites, for example, and are thought to be Proto-Dravidian. I'd say Dravidians are Black but not African, though African substrates exist in Dravidian culture. I would not be shocked if the Ubaidians in Sumer were African like the Natufians in the Levant.
Did they look like modern day assyrians?
 

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Mesopotamia spanned 1000s of years and multiple clans. The Elamites are not the Hittites, for example, and are thought to be Proto-Dravidian. I'd say Dravidians are Black but not African, though African substrates exist in Dravidian culture. I would not be shocked if the Ubaidians in Sumer were African like the Natufians in the Levant.

Arent davidrians part of the same ethnic group as modern day Pakistanis tho ? What do you mean by "black but not african". And yeah i dont doubt there were africans there, but they would have been a minority. That culture was largely Semitic.
 

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Arent davidrians part of the same ethic group as modern day Pakistanis tho ? What do you mean by "black but not african". And yeah i dont doubt there were africans there, but they would have been a minority. That culture was largely Semitic.

Sumerians were non-semitic people. Semitic tells you nothing btw given that its a language group of possible African origin.

Black to me simply means having Black skin and/or significant African ancestry. Its not only genetics.
 

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Its possible breh. Understand that Mesopotamia does not refer to one specific civilization but the land (modern day iraq) that a number of civilisations arose. The sumerians were the first of those civilisations and they sprang up around the time of the egyptians. But i dont think anyone knows for a fact which formed first.



Lol breh, they werent black, they were middle eastern.

Use a term from 1850 cac British land stealers to describe people from 2,000+ years prior bruhs

Resurrect old, already disproven cac theories to discredit Africa as the mother of all civilizations bruhs

Ignore 40,000 year old mines in south Africa and claim the cracker mountains is the start bruhs
 

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Sumerians were non-semitic people. Semitic tells you nothing btw given that its a language group of possible African origin.

Black to me simply means having Black skin and/or significant African ancestry. Its not only genetics.

Yeah thats why i specified the sumerians in my earlier post. And i know language is not fixed, but the Semitic has been associated with that region for thousands of years, so it is a reliable indicator. The same way if we're talking about a niger-congo group, we can assume we're talking about black africans.

And ok, i personally classify "black" as those with african ancestry, so i guess we're gonna differ there.
 

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Use a term from 1850 cac British land stealers to describe people from 2,000+ years prior bruhs

Resurrect old, already disproven cac theories to discredit Africa as the mother of all civilizations bruhs

Ignore 40,000 year old mines in south Africa and claim the cracker mountains is the start bruhs

Lol fair enough, but we're all using european terms breh :patrice:That term refers to the people that populate the area so i dont see the big deal.

Where did i discredit africa as the foundation ? I already know egypt and nubia marks the starting point of civilisation breh. Im not doubting they were black.

But at the same time, im not gonna pretend the mesopatomians were african like that breh :yeshrug:Its possible, but thats not what i personally believe. Its subjective tho, so we can agree to disagree:ehh:
 

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And i know language is not fixed, but the Semitic has been associated with that region for thousands of years, so it is a reliable indicator.

No longer than North and East Africa. In fact, Semitic is just a subgroup of Afro Asiatic which is 100% African in origin and spoken all over the continent.

Do I think Semitic people like the Hyksos were Black? No. Do I think Semitic means Middle Eastern? no.
 
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