Look how far Cacs went to claim Kemet

[fscballin]

I don't think you don't know what you're talking about and should really not speak in a discussion you are not well studied in. "White mans feature?" Really?

Narrow noses are not white mans features. Its an adaptation. By your logic hooked nose Indians are white.

Europeans weren't even the first people to have those features. Heck I read some posters on another site even state Europeans/white dont even have real straight hair like Indians, Asians and Native Americans but their hair is more curly.

White mans features my ass.

U do realize phenotypes can adapt to certain geopraphic location right? The hell is a white feature? I bet u these so called white features were already in Africa right before the out of Africa movement.

the original black man did not resemble the members of any another race

 

[Bawon Samedi]

U do realize phenotypes can adapt to certain geopraphic location right? The hell is a white feature? I bet u these so called white features were already in Africa right before the out of Africa movement.

Indeed. Heres a source that goes against what he thinks. Be aware its very dated, but it gets our point across with narrow features being native to Africa.

"The oldest remains of Homo sapiens sapiens found in East Africa were associated with an industry having similarities with the Capsian. It has been called Upper Kenyan Capsian, although its derivation from the North African Capsian is far from certain. At Gamble's Cave in Kenya, five human skeletons were associated with a late phase of the industry, Upper Kenya Capsian C, which contains pottery. A similar associationis presumed for a skeleton found at Olduvai, which resembles those from Gamble's Cave. The date of Upper Kenya Capsian C is not precisely known (an earlier phase from Prospect Farm on Eburru Mountain close to Gamble's Cave has been dated to about 8000 BC); but the presence of pottery indicates a rather later date, perhaps around 400 BC. The skeletons are of very tall people. They had long, narrow heads, and relatively long, narrow faces. The nose was of medium width; and prognathism, when present, was restricted to the alveolar, or tooth-bearing, region.
Many authors regard these people as physically akin to the Mediterraneans, hence the label of 'Caucasoids' (or European-like) generally attached to them.

However, all their features can be found in several living populations of East Africa, like the Tutsi of Rwanda and Burundi, who are very dark skinned and differ greatly from Europeans in a number of body proportions.

From the foregoing, it is tempting to locate the area of differentiation of these people in the interior of East Africa. Now, as mentioned in Chapter 3, the fossil record tells of tall people with long and narrow heads, faces and noses who lived a few thousand years BC in East Africa at such places as Gamble's Cave in the Kenya Rift Valley and at Olduvai in northern Tanzania. There is every reason to believe that they are ancestral to the living 'Elongated East Africans'. Neither of these populations, fossil and modern, should be considered to be closely related to Caucasoids of Europe and western Asia, as they usually are in literature."

-Jean Hiernaux
The People of Africa(Peoples of the World Series)
pgs 42-43, 62-63"


^^^I like the third paragraph because it states that these people may be ancestors to Africans with narrower features. Narrow features may have first evolved in the people of the Capsian culture of Kenya.

 

[fscballin]

far far far from the original black man, lmao

come on... original does not equate with a bushman connotation, lmao

 

[Poitier]

far far far from the original black man, lmao

Unless you mean ape like hominid then yes the khoi resemble "the original black man"

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Unless you mean ape like hominid then yes the khoi resemble "the original black man"

Disagree. The "original black man" would have been much darker than khoi who live in a colder climate. The "original black man" was said to live near the equator and would have been much darker because of that. But yes, khoi people ARE closer to the original humans and DO carry the most ancient lineages out of any African and are the least admixed. Today they are "more black" than anyone on this planet.

 

[Gizza]

I'm so appalled & disgusted lmfao wtf really?

 

[Poitier]

The "original black man" was said to live near the equator and would have been much darker because of that.

With or without any fur, though? I'm not even sure why it matters since we are diverse but hey.

 

[Oceanicpuppy]

narrow noses are not an original feature of our people. They are a result of mixing.

Yes they are....Everything from pointy noses to blonde hair were in the genes of early Africans. Caucasian's are a result of recessive genes and adaption...Black people in certain parts of Africa didn't need pointy noses some did. Africa has a diverse climate.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

With or without any fur, though? I'm not even sure why it matters since we are diverse but hey.

Dont get what you mean?

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Yes they are....Everything from pointy noses to blonde hair were in the genes of early Africans. Caucasian's are a result of recessive genes and adaption...Black people in certain parts of Africa didn't need pointy noses some did. Africa has a diverse climate.

Okay now you're just saying anything. The African environment is not suitable for blonde hair. Blonde hair most likely evolved in cold climate in cold adapted people. Blonde hair which is recessive. The African climate is diverse but not that diverse...

 

[Poitier]

Dont get what you mean?

Fur was still there even when we became erect but its really not that important. Not sure many would want to look like the original man.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Fur was still there even when we became erect but its really not that important. Not sure many would want to look like the original man.

I was talking about the original "black man", meaning modern homo sapien. The ones that migrated out of Africa.

 

[Poitier]

I was talking about the original "black man", meaning modern homo sapien. The ones that migrated out of Africa.

So like Andaman Islander type phenotypically?

 

[Oceanicpuppy]

Okay now you're just saying anything. The African environment is not suitable for blonde hair. Blonde hair most likely evolved in cold climate in cold adapted people. Blonde hair which is recessive. The African climate is diverse but not that diverse...

If we all came from Africa the early africans had to have had the gene of blonde hair or there would never had been blonde hair. I said that it came from adaption as well. If we had the dna code for wings we would've had them by now. Look at the Melanesian people having the code for blonde hair. Blonde hair and blue eyes are recessive traits even with in white people. Someone one born with blue eyes and mated with another to carry on the trait because it was a niche trait that kept them alive and surviving in the harsh cold climate. The DNA code was already in them before they reached the cold climates.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

If we all came from Africa the early africans had to have had the gene of blonde hair or there would never had been blonde hair. I said that it came from adaption as well. The If we had the dna code for wings we would've had them by now. Look at the Melanesian people having the code for blonde hair. Blonde hair and blue eyes are recessive traits even with in white people. Someone one born with blue eyes and mated with another to carry on the trait because it was niche trait that keep them alive and surviving in the harsh cold climate.

The thing is as humans began to migrate out of Africa and into new areas, different traits evolved. Saying that we're all from Africa doesn't say anything. You might as well say pale skin is African in origin. If it came from adaptation then blonde hair is definitely not African in origins due to its climate not supporting it. Not only that you can't say blonde hair is African adaption since the gene for blonde hair evolved long after the OOA.


Also blonde hair evolved separately/independently in Melanesia. I also heard the "blonde hair" gene in Melanesian's is different from that of Europeans. Nor is it really blonde hair.