Look at the CIA brehs

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I told myself I didn't want to do this today :snoop:

No, with Iran, now that their president is more moderate and has even voiced desire to reach across the aisle. A lot of it is too late as diplomacy in the past, rather than bombs and meddling, would have saved everyone a lot of dead bodies and headaches

Whats "moderate" in a field of loons?

STUXNET straight got them boys scared, in addition to some outright targeted assassinations that lets them know we're about that action and will stop nuclear proliferation at ALL costs.

Not to mention that Iran is getting a serious deal in the restructuring in the region.

So yeah, this is less about Iran than it is about the hard-line position we've had towards them.

Catch up.

The US MUST maintain their dominance.


No we didnt

From Mossadegh to arming the Afghans against the Soviets to all our other meddling and shyt.. we have been fukking with the ME for decades, and this mess we have inherited are the crows coming home to roost.
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uhh...

So?

I don't see why I should automatically start feeling sympathetic towards that TODAY.

Cause as it stands, policy must be made and decisions must be implemented.

Every other nation does it.

So now you want me to condone being some second-tier nation that doesn't influence or pursue conditions favorable to it's aims?

This is what is so frustrating about talking to you all.

just about Every military action in humanity has been about enforcement or resources.


Dont talk to me about understanding breh. U have no idea what u are talking about. Our ONLY triumphs over the last 5 decades have been through diplomacy. JFK AVOIDING nuclear war with Cuba. Nixon reaching out to and opening up China. Letting the USSR collapse on its own, rather than engaging in a turf war we would lose for nothing.
WTF are you talking about? The USSR collapsed BECAUSE of the Cold War.

China was opened up similar to how Japan was...which some warships and a little diplomacy.

Compare that to, us going to Korea and STARTING the Cold War, us getting our ASSES handed to us in Vietnam, while Vietnam remained communist TO THIS DAY, us overthrowing Mossadegh in Iran for oil only for them to become a problem now, etc. etc. etc.... sometimes knowing when NOT to jump into a fight is the answer and our foreign policy results have shown that damn near every conflict we've jumped into over the last 50 yrs has been such an instance

Do the knowledge fakkit :artumad:

Stop dancing with this anti-American fukk shyt.

1. Vietnam needed to happen. Did it need to be prolonged? No. But it was going to happen regardless. Before the china/russia split that was a serious issue
2. korea needed to happen as well...and you can blame overzealous generals for fukking that up
3. we've had a lot of successes too, but i'll let you keep pretending that kicking ass doesn't present results.
 

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23. Body of Lies (2008)
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A CIA agent on the ground in Jordan hunts down a powerful terrorist leader while being caught between the unclear intentions of his American supervisors and Jordan Intelligence.
I might watch this. I love this sort of stuff.
 

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So now having any criticisms or objections to American foreign policy = being "anti-American"

Hmmm. Where have I heard that before
Oh...I'm not saying that AT ALL

I have TONS of critiques.

BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT

You don't have anything to offer here besides half-truths and an ill formed reference to historical events.

Look. A lot of these dudes were legit a$$holes who needed to get their shyt rocked.

We can talk about tactics, or how to better go about it, but whats done is done.

I don't condone that torture, but I almost understand why it happened.
 

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Oh...I'm not saying that AT ALL

I have TONS of critiques.
OK, hit me with some. What are some mistakes we made in the ME over the last 50 yrs.

BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT

You don't have anything to offer here besides half-truths and an ill formed reference to historical events.
Like what. Break it down for me[/ronnie] What are these half truths I threw out.

Look. A lot of these dudes were legit a$$holes who needed to get their shyt rocked.
Explain how the overthrow of Mossadegh was warranted.

We can talk about tactics, or how to better go about it, but whats done is done.

I don't condone that torture, but I almost understand why it happened.
This shyt is not a video game. Historical context is important, if not everything.
 

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OK, hit me with some. What are some mistakes we made in the ME over the last 50 yrs.
Invading Iraq was dumb (but saddam was gonna have to go sooner or later) They had the option of doing small targeted strikes as well instead of outright invasion.

Nation building isn't our strong suit...but we're amazing at fukking shyt up as it relates to actual combat.

Uhh...what else... I think our support for the Saudis needs to shift into some sort of regime change there but...who knows...that appears to be the long con...


Like what. Break it down for me[/ronnie] What are these half truths I threw out.
Your understanding of why the Soviets failed is sophomoric at best.


Explain how the overthrow of Mossadegh was warranted.
No overthrow is really ever "warranted"

It just happens when outside forces are too powerful.

This shyt is not a video game. Historical context is important, if not everything.
Huh???????????????????

What is this in response to?
 

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its funny most of ISIS leaders including the leader himself were detainees of the US in iraq who probably went through torture like the Abu Ghraib facility and such now that they are free you see the carnage they are causing..every little detail ties together brehs.
 

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The first death of an American by an Islamic extremist because of the release of this report will be blamed on Obama. Republicans are going to have a field day.

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