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Mr. Leonidas

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:mjlol: at anybody believing Rigo is 36.

Apparently it's actually 37. Yeah, their are some reports that he's older but there are also reports of the world being flat. So instead I see proof of otherwise, I'm going with what is actually proven. Regardless his age don't matter anymore cuz he doesn't matter anymore.
 

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Damn you, took me a out 30 seconds
 

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I couldn't get a stream last night brehs on my phone, watched it on youtube this morning.....both looked lack luster but that size different when in the ring was much bigger then i expected.

Rigo will go back down to 122 & start handing out whoopings again :wow:
 

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he was making lomachenko miss alright, but not pulling the trigger on the counter. lomachenko doesnt commit a lot into his punches, so he is not easy to run into something, but there were a lot of punches there that rigondeaux could have pulled the trigger on but didnt. lots of missed chances. it didnt help that he spent so much of the fight bent over. you cant punch back from that position. he started out with a good steady jab in round 1 and really, really got away from the jab. its so difficult to get your timing without a jab. the jab gets you into a nice offensive groove. you get away from your jab and it feels like you are doing everything from a sudden stop. its because you are. so your workrate starts to dip and you start to get real cold. you feel real out of rhythm. none of your punches feel like they are coming out on time. all symptoms of getting away from your jab. who was the guy who got his jab going? lomachenko. and it showed.
I wonder why ? :jbhmm:







one of the things guys do not do against lomachenko is get a jab going. its important to get your jab going so you can fill up the space where lomachenko jabs so he cant get any room to throw his jab.

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you want to get that jab going. you want to fill up that space and prevent his jab from getting room to extend. that does two important things. its keeps him from getting his own jab going and it keeps him out on the end of your jab.

you want to keep lomachenko out on the end of your reach. when you just cover up you cant punch back and he gets to just walk straight to you and invade your space. you want to get your jab going so you can hang him out on the end of your reach where he is not in range to pity pat you and create a lot of workrate.

guys who can hang him out on the end of their jabs, guys like rigondeaux, garcia, crawford, are guys who can create a very different situation for him than these guys who just cover up and just let him walk in and invade their space for free. then it becomes about who has better timing and spacing. now it becomes about boxing.
I remember in Loma's last couple of fights you talked about his opponents as if fighters suddenly decided to have the wrong gameplan. Rigo ended up doing the same thing that previous less skilled fighters did against Loma. Maybe is it because Loma forces them to change it and cover up ?






En in the first round, Loma managed to get past the jab to invade Rigo's space.
 
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I remember in Loma's last couple of fights you talked about his opponents as if fighters suddenly decided to have the wrong gameplan. Rigo ended up doing the same thing that previous less skilled fighters did against Loma. Maybe is it because Loma forces them to change it and cover up ?
rigondeaux puts himself in a better position to throw a punch back at lomachenko, if he doesnt spend half of the fight bent over. part of that is lomachenko, and the other part of it is on rigondeaux. if you think lomachenko makes everybody stop throwing punches, go watch his amateur career. you may not believe it, but he has had close fights before.
 

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rigondeaux puts himself in a better position to throw a punch back at lomachenko, if he doesnt spend half of the fight bent over. part of that is lomachenko, and the other part of it is on rigondeaux. if you think lomachenko makes everybody stop throwing punches, go watch his amateur career. you may not believe it, but he has had close fights before.
Well he also had close fights in the pros too so I don't think Loma is invincible or anything, I just give him props when he manage to make undefeated boxers like Axeman or Rigo change their style. I think for both fights, you thought Loma's opponents were about to bring something different to the table and you were saying that a guy like Rigo would have disrupted his rhythm but he ultimately didn't. So the question remains, if Rigo in the first round had his jab going, why did he suddenly stop ?
 

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yep... this. in a nutshell.
Loma is such a dope fighter and super talanted... but ive had to watch most of his fights on mute because of the dikkeating and double standards. Loma wins round two and announcers RANDOMLY start talking shxt about Floyd Mayweather being a disgrace to boxing for the next 5 minutes... really?:gucci: round 4 ends, Bradley starts discussing strategy only to be interrupted by "DID YOU SEE THAT?! LOMA JUST CLOWNED HIM. LOOK AT THAT. HE CLOWNED RIGO. LOMA JUST CLOWNS WHOEVER HE WANTS":pachaha:

:dahell:knowing COT DAMN WELL they would have called this "classless, immature, disrespectful and downright unnecessary" if Crawford or Thurman did that shyt. The great white hope effect is so blatant and corny.
I get your point, but youre embellishing. They praised Bud Crawford just as much during and after his last fight.
 

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Well he also had close fights in the pros too so I don't think Loma is invincible or anything, I just give him props when he manage to make undefeated boxers like Axeman or Rigo change their style. I think for both fights, you thought Loma's opponents were about to bring something different to the table and you were saying that a guy like Rigo would have disrupted his rhythm but he ultimately didn't. So the question remains, if Rigo in the first round had his jab going, why did he suddenly stop ?
rigondeaux spent the fight making lomahencko miss, which would have been fine, if only he could have thrown punches. you may remember i called it "the calzaghe effect". one guy throws so many punches the other guy gets forced to cover up. in this case bent over. i give credit to lomachenko. and i blame rigondeaux for not adding a step back to his outside slip. it helps a lot not to stand still for a combination puncher. is the glass half empty or is it half full? my answer to your question is that its both.
 
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