LL Cool J: "2Pac Had To Put On A Gangsta Image For The Dudes To Like Him"

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Pac was Pac. Right or wrong. It wasn’t no damn method acting. And this is what people are trying to say. Pac was wild. Impulsive. Didnt always think shyt trough before doing things. Etc etc. but he wasn’t acting. That was a core part of his personality. And anyone who has been around Pac for an extended amount of time has said that.
not debating the impulsive/wild character

i'm saying impulsive/wild doesn't equal≠gangster

the threat of danger came from mob

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Biggie made fun of him in the Fab Five Freddy interview. Biggie was playing dumb with why Pac was mad. If he was so concerned he would’ve answered Pac’s direct calls while he was locked up instead of ignored him.
Source? Because when BIG tried to go see him in the hospital he was turned away.

The undeniable fact is the whole shyt starts with Tupac blaming BIG for something he had nothing to do with. This is Ground Zero for the beef. And the really sad part is Pac came to know that wasn't rue and did NOTHING to rectify the situation.
 

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Source? Because when BIG tried to go see him in the hospital he was turned away.

The undeniable fact is the whole shyt starts with Tupac blaming BIG for something he had nothing to do with. This is Ground Zero for the beef. And the really sad part is Pac came to know that wasn't rue and did NOTHING to rectify the situation.

I think Pac discharged himself by the time Big got there (which wasn't long but Pac feared for his life & bounced against doctors orders) but he & Cease gave his biological pops the hammer that was stashed in the piano back

I 100% agree with you on the second part. Pac might've really believed Big had something to do with it at first but at some point early on he found out the truth & still ran with that false accusation for whatever reason
 

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Biggie made fun of him in the Fab Five Freddy interview. Biggie was playing dumb with why Pac was mad. If he was so concerned he would’ve answered Pac’s direct calls while he was locked up instead of ignored him.
The only thing he said was he felt pac was stuck in movie mode spliz ..... he said what he heard about him only getting shot 1 x etc but if you listen to his tone the way he speaking he’s still tuck back at how pac was bugging out at him ....
 

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I believe something happened to Pac when he was locked up but I think it was at the hands of the guards. Regardless it don’t mean shyt. nikkas get jumped in jail everyday. Don’t mean nikkas is soft or whatever.
Never said anything about him been soft a punk or anything just stated I think based on things I’ve seen he was jumped /set up by a few inmates before he was put in p.c ....
 

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Source? Because when BIG tried to go see him in the hospital he was turned away.

The undeniable fact is the whole shyt starts with Tupac blaming BIG for something he had nothing to do with. This is Ground Zero for the beef. And the really sad part is Pac came to know that wasn't rue and did NOTHING to rectify the situation.
Majesty said the same shyt on queensflip ..... and this is someone who knew pac since the very early 90s with his brother..... he said pac wasn’t the type of person to take shyt back once he said it so he rolled with it .... majesty said he knows for fact deep down pac didn’t know it was gona go that far .... but by the time it went to far suge was involved, pirus were involved, puffy , southside crips there really was no turning back ........there is no way in hell with pacs ego he could take back what he said .... cause then it would show that making hit em up was basically a fake diss song to someone who didn’t do anything to him me and spliz can go back n fourth about anything else I have no problem with that but this topic is something where pac was saving face nothing but facts .....
 

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I think Pac discharged himself by the time Big got there (which wasn't long but Pac feared for his life & bounced against doctors orders) but he & Cease gave his biological pops the hammer that was stashed in the piano back

I 100% agree with you on the second part. Pac might've really believed Big had something to do with it at first but at some point early on he found out the truth & still ran with that false accusation for whatever reason
The last part u mentioned is a fact that no one can dispute and it makes pac look funny style ....he was told by e money bags and nickles who was responsible, why it was done , and that biggie n puffy / junior mafia had nothing to do with it ....yet still ran with it ...... imagine another rapper doing that what they would get called .....this is my main issue with pac tbh .... he flat out ran with a lie wen he knew it wasn’t true and had people hating on big because ov it ...it’s clear why he was doing it to save face and make quad look like it was something bigger then what it is ......
 

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Nah...you said once he went to jail like he was in jail giving hella interviews about Biggie. Once "Who shot ya" and that Vibe interview dropped of Bad Boy shytting on him he went off. You playing stupid acting like those factors didn't exist.

I guess you can’t read and comprehend
I said once he went to jail & thereafter ... I even posted the dates ( January 1995 to his demise ) what part of your P brain doesn’t understand this, is beyond me .... he mentioned biggies name in like every interview till his death

and for da millionth time the song “who shot you“ was recorded in August of ‘94 with Keith Murray as a track for Mary J Blige new album which was pulled by Andre Harrell ‘RIP’ cause of the lyrical content not being suitable for a female R&B artist

how many times we’ve been through this ..... so, you’ll really playing obtuse
 

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I guess you can’t read and comprehend
I said once he went to jail & thereafter ... I even posted the dates ( January 1995 to his demise ) what part of your P brain doesn’t understand this, is beyond me .... he mentioned biggies name in like every interview till his death

and for da millionth time the song “who shot you“ was recorded in August of ‘94 with Keith Murray as a track for Mary J Blige new album which was pulled by Andre Harrell ‘RIP’ cause of the lyrical content not being suitable for a female R&B artist

how many times we’ve been through this ..... so, you’ll really playing obtuse
P brain? You're a fukking idiot :mjlol:Biggie and Pac dead....you hating ass mufukkas gotta get over the shyt. As long as east coast nikkas shyt on Pac I'm gon reciprocate and place energy to their King :manny: it's either gon be peace or war :pacspit:
 

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P brain? You're a fukking idiot :mjlol:Biggie and Pac dead....you hating ass mufukkas gotta get over the shyt. As long as east coast nikkas shyt on Pac I'm gon reciprocate and place energy to their King :manny: it's either gon be peace or war :pacspit:


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how am I hating ?

when everything I said is 100% fact - are u denying he didn’t mention biggie name in damn near every interview since 1995

and again, you nikkaz are the haters ... y’all are the ones, who couldn’t keep biggie name outta y’all fukking mouths
 

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how am I hating ?

when everything I said is 100% fact - are u denying he didn’t mention biggie name in damn near every interview since 1995

and again, you nikkaz are the haters ... y’all are the ones, who couldn’t keep biggie name outta y’all fukking mouths
I guess we'll just keep stating facts then :manny:
 

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although our views are polar opposite ... we were still having, pretty much a civil debate
but now I see you turn this into some fukk shyt


and now i understand why they call you AsianThoughts
You resulted to the name calling and disrespect first...shyt can't be civil after that clown. I'll never respect a mufukka that disrespect me.
 
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