Like it or not, Kendrick Lamar and J. Cole are the Rakim and BDK/Nas and Jay-Z of this era

[Absolut da poet ®]

Once you've made it...to endure you'll need to immediately to find a female and start thinking about finding that new guy.

Jay did this by tapping into Beyonce and Rihanna. Wayne did this with Nicki. Female fans spend $$$$ but also follow these women because they vicariously get closer to you.

Jay has Kanye as an underling. Wayne has Drake. They can tap into younger audiences just by doing this.


Em isnt in this discussion. By being white he can feast years into wackness like The Rolling Stones. He's still one of the illest but....be real

lmao

 

[Gains]

1 star thread

 

[Revolutionary]

only kendrick

 

[Absolut da poet ®]

what was 50Cent ?

chump change ?

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

All these new artists are wayyyy too new to the game to be saying their the "next" XYZ...

Jay-z and Nas have been at the forefront of Hip Hop for TWENTY YEARS strong. We don't know how long Drake, Kendrick, Cole, etc. are going to last within the mainstream collective. Kendrick is coming off his debut studio album and we don't really know if he's going to keep going strong or flame out. Cole's got two under his belt, Drake's got three. Jay-Z has ELEVEN solo albums and Nas has TEN.


Lets allow these young artists the freedom of carving their own names and legacies within Hip Hop

Nobody said they are the next anything, and I clearly stated they are nowhere near as good as Kane/Rakim and Nas/Jay in the first sentence.

What is up with all the fail comprehension in this thread?

I'm simply saying that they are the two most prominent and respected lyricists of an era, as Rakim/Kane (though you could easily replace Kane with G Rap) and Nas/Jay were.

They will both be lasting artists and its apparent. Cole is about sell over 300k with no buzz and no single. Kendrick's next album will be a huge event and he has the talent to keep delivering. Plus, Rakim and Kane (and G Rap) were considered the best of the golden era of 87-89 plus a few years beyond. It wasn't that long.

 

[blackslash]

I remember this thread


nikka really lumped that boring ass nikka Cole in the Jay/Nas Category

The only 2 artists from this generation that rival each other in a Jay/Nas kind of way are Kdot and Drake

Period


Drake is Hov
Kdot is Nas(tho Kdot is more like Pac than Nas but meh )

nikka talm bout Cole

 

[No1]

Nobody said they are the next anything, and I clearly stated they are nowhere near as good as Kane/Rakim and Nas/Jay in the first sentence.

What is up with all the fail comprehension in this thread?

I'm simply saying that they are the two most prominent and respected lyricists of an era, as Rakim/Kane (though you could easily replace Kane with G Rap) and Nas/Jay were.

They will both be lasting artists and its apparent. Cole is about sell over 300k with no buzz and no single. Kendrick's next album will be a huge event and he has the talent to keep delivering. Plus, Rakim and Kane (and G Rap) were considered the best of the golden era of 87-89 plus a few years beyond. It wasn't that long.

Cole does have a buzz. As @CrimsonTider pointed out, you guys are describing buzz according to old standards. His fan base just needed to hear about it and that was all. He is not some Jay Z or Drake that has incredible crossover appeal. Cole has the kids like me who were in college that he caught and then our younger cousins and shyt. They did not need a bunch of commercials and singles to be interested.

As far as Cole and K. Dot being the most prominent lyricists, you guys are speaking based on what you want to happen. Like it or not, people respect Drake on the mic and he is bigger than both of them.

 

[Abstract83]

Why do we have to say who is the 2 lyrical popular rappers with similarities and extreme differences together just to say they are the ying-yang of rap when ya are forgetting about Elmatic. Off that mixtape alone Elzhi and Young Droog are the closest to Nas technically.


Let Cole, Drake, Logic, Childish, and Kendrick compete with each other to be called the next "themselves" Ya so stuck on the 80s and 90s that ya would wanna just stick some rappers who are currently getting some acceptance as lyricist (minus Gambino Drake) lol that ya wanna stay back there.

Be proud of who and what we have now. That's why this culture can't move forward. I can name so many artists that's nicer than cats from the 80's and 90's or atleast on par with the legends. Even some from that era that's still dropping great albums that only gets praised for their earlier works. We're those the golden era's of our time "yes" Can we finally say RIP to Big and Pac along with all the legends who paved the way for us to still be enjoying this music and move on? Yes we can

I'm not saying forget them I'm saying look for new future legends and let them stand on their own 2 feet. I can and compare the 90's and 2000's-10's all day too. Ya need to know that albums just ain't selling. Media isn't pushing the masses to buy music anymore. People go to concerts more instead of buying albums. So that 1 or groups of golden artists impact isn't happening anymore. Be good with what we have and dig for good music then compare that.

It's just like the 80's now when word of mouth was everything. We got so much technology now to find good music which is a Google iTunes Spotify search away. If your saying rap is dead and this was a slow year in hip-hop kill yourselves. I'm not even gonna begin to name what albums dropped this year. Google it.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Cole does have a buzz. As @CrimsonTider pointed out, you guys are describing buzz according to old standards. His fan base just needed to hear about it and that was all. He is not some Jay Z or Drake that has incredible crossover appeal. Cole has the kids like me who were in college that he caught and then our younger cousins and shyt. They did not need a bunch of commercials and singles to be interested.

As far as Cole and K. Dot being the most prominent lyricists, you guys are speaking based on what you want to happen. Like it or not, people respect Drake on the mic and he is bigger than both of them.

Obviously I'm speaking of a general core hip-hop audience...not rap nerds, but people who generally take the artform a little more seriously and have a more sophisticated ear than the average casual fan. And no, they do not generally respect Drake as an emcee more than Cole or K. Dot.

And miss me with that bullshyt about what I want to happen. I'm calling it as I see it. I'm not a stan of either or them. They're young kids to me. They will never come near what I consider the best music ever, but I recognize their talent and output and the space they're occupying right now.

 

[doublenegative]

This is a true statement.

 

[ManBearPig]

Real talk.

Jay-Z= Kendrick Lamar

Nas = Kendrick Lamar


Cole is cool but he ain't in that level

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

 

[SirBiatch]

They are in no way as good as the two other pairings. But it doesn't matter. They are two most prominent lyricists of the day. It is what it is.

P. S. please do not mention Lil Wayne or Drake in this thread.

then why mention Rakim/BDK, Nas and Jay-z?

Just say: "Kendrick and Cole are the two most prominent lyricists of the day."

the joke is that Drake is more lyrical than both those cats. That's how sad shyt is in this era

 

[JayBaldacci]

I fukk with both them boys. But Jay has at least 4-5 classics. They might catch up when it's all said and done.

1 arguable classic.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

then why mention Rakim/BDK, Nas and Jay-z?

Just say: "Kendrick and Cole are the two most prominent lyricists of the day."

Because they occupy the role the other two pairings did today. Don't see why anyone should have a problem with that. If you consider that an indictment on the quality of this era, so be it but don't kill the messenger.

the joke is that Drake is more lyrical than both those cats. That's how sad shyt is in this era

I think you mean Quentin Miller/god knows who else, but no they're not.