Libya now splits into 3 states...

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Diversity is the root of all evil...People blame religion, but diversity is nature's of way of promoting war...

As long as we diversity in the way we think, look and behave, we will always be at odds with each other...

The Tower of Babel was a b+tch....

And how many countries are not diverse?

I still believe one the biggest problems in Africa is Black Americans and Black Europeans who have no interest in the continent...

Where would Israel be without the Jews that are influential in almost every aspect of American policy making...?

Africans will never be able to help themselves...The continent is far behind in health and education...With every new technology that comes out, other countries leap frog further into the future, while the majority of African countries don't even have a fundamental infrastructure...

Basically, Africa is like a retarded child placed in an advanced school curriculum...Every little progress that child makes will be insignificant, because all the other children are already far ahead...

The best thing to do is to isolate that child, and get him to learn the basics first, without negative outside influences disrupting his progress...

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You are clueless....Africa is not monolithic. Do you think a Hausa or Fulani man gives a flying fukk about another black man that is not down with Islam? Go to northern Nigeria, kick your knowledge and see if your head doesn't get chopped off :heh:

Keeping Nigeria together is equivalent to having Portugal, Spain, and France as one country it would not work and only lead to fighting, backbiting, and instability. If you can't understand that, I don;t know what else to say. The reason why Europe is not fighting like they used to is because they have allowed every ethnic group/tribe to have their own country to govern themselves. They broke up the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia, etc. They understand that it is what creates stability and prevents conflict. From that understanding, they have then come together and formed the European Union but every ethnic group/tribe/people with shared culture has their own country. If they are so united, why haven't they just made the EU one big ass country instead? I think you know the answer to that question. You start by first allowing differing groups to handle their own affairs then you come together as one once things are settled among each country. This is what the EU is doing. They see how a country progresses then they vote in new members. This makes these countries want to work hard to gain membership into the EU because they do not want to be left behind.

False (see: Belgium, Spain, France, GB, Italy, Romania, etc.).
 

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The white man vs the arab doesnt bother me in the slightest. They been fukkin with black people longer than the Cacs so any L they take i pop expensive bottles to. fukk um. One less hurdle Africans have to deal with. Keep them occupied with that cac weaponry.

Im sure they'll split this nation into resources, fanatics(arabs) and black people. The country is 97 percent arab. Who cares.

you need to understand what's going on... you need to listen to all types of news sources before you attempt to decipher what's going on.
this beast you're feeding will come back to haunt you and us all.
 

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The reason why Europe is not fighting like they used to is because they have allowed every ethnic group/tribe to have their own country to govern themselves. They broke up the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia, etc. They understand that it is what creates stability and prevents conflict. From that understanding, they have then come together and formed the European Union but every ethnic group/tribe/people with shared culture has their own country. If they are so united, why haven't they just made the EU one big ass country instead? I think you know the answer to that question. You start by first allowing differing groups to handle their own affairs then you come together as one once things are settled among each country. This is what the EU is doing. They see how a country progresses then they vote in new members. This makes these countries want to work hard to gain membership into the EU because they do not want to be left behind.

Excellent point, and one that illustrates how demonic these cacs were in the way they carved up the borders of the third world over the two centuries

guarantors of instability
 

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And how many countries are not diverse?



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False (see: Belgium, Spain, France, GB, Italy, Romania, etc.).

:childplease: Its not false. Those are not good examples. There are many groups that have decided to stay together for various reasons. Spain had a civil war last century and things are still unresolved for Catalonia since that time and the separation may eventually happen. Scotland has a referendum coming up to leave the UK even though there no open beef there. The UK was set up by the English monarchy and their power has weakened so its natural for Scotland to break away but within the UK each country operates separately even though they are still part of the UK. Almost every country has there differences among the people but that does not change their nationality. Nationality is the umbrella that can unite differing groups that desire to be together. Bavarians are different than the rest of Germany but they are still German. Switzerland is made up of multiple ethnic groups but they have decided to stay together and share in their culture and nationality. That is why I emphasized shared culture and interests. I know exactly what I am talking about.
 

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Excellent point, and one that illustrates how demonic these cacs were in the way they carved up the borders of the third world over the two centuries

guarantors of instability

These cacs were very aware. They are many statements from these cacs that indicated that they would use the divisions within their colonies to exploit the people and resources. This is why when all those African countries started to gain their independence rapidly in the 1960s and 1970s it was not by accident. it was because they had already set up a system that would allow them to still have control over resources while they chill in Europe. All they do is have one or two tribes/ethnic groups that they ally with and give power to who will then look out for their interest on their colonies.
 

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:childplease: Its not false. Those are not good examples. There are many groups that have decided to stay together for various reasons. Spain had a civil war last century and things are still unresolved for Catalonia since that time and the separation may eventually happen. Scotland has a referendum coming up to leave the UK even though there no open beef there. The UK was set up by the English monarchy and their power has weakened so its natural for Scotland to break away but within the UK each country operates separately even though they are still part of the UK. Almost every country has there differences among the people but that does not change their nationality. Nationality is the umbrella that can unite differing groups that desire to be together. Bavarians are different than the rest of Germany but they are still German. Switzerland is made up of multiple ethnic groups but they have decided to stay together and share in their culture and nationality. That is why I emphasized shared culture and interests. I know exactly what I am talking about.


But even today we still see remnants of past tensions, Kosovo is still a problem, the Hungarian nationalists still agitate for a great Hungary, Belgium has tensions, Scotland and Catalonia have significant independence movements, not to mention your typical geographic/socioeconomic cleavages within countries like Italy

If I had a magic wand, I would make the following change:

1) Israel gets the 67 borders and some settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem
2) Most of Jordan along with parts of the West Bank and East Jerusalem become Palestine
3) Remainder of Jordan, and the Sunni Heartlands of Iraq and Syria become one state called Syria
4) Lebanon gets the Alawite coastland of Syria and remains a multi confessional state
6) Kurdistan created from all Kurdish areas of the region
7) Shia Arab country made from Southern Iraq, possibly Khuzistan province of Iran, and a Gulf State or two (Bahrain etc)
8) Iranian Azerbaijan joins with Azerbaijan
9) Northern Afghanistan joins with Tajikistan and Southern Uzbekistan to form a Persian speaking Central Asian nation
10) Southern Afghanistan join with Pashtun areas of Pakistan to form Pashtunistan
11) Balochistan created from all Baloch areas of region
12) Sindh, Kashmir and Punjab to India

:huhldup: @ the method by which that'll get created
 

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:childplease: Its not false. Those are not good examples. There are many groups that have decided to stay together for various reasons. Spain had a civil war last century and things are still unresolved for Catalonia since that time and the separation may eventually happen. Scotland has a referendum coming up to leave the UK even though there no open beef there. The UK was set up by the English monarchy and their power has weakened so its natural for Scotland to break away but within the UK each country operates separately even though they are still part of the UK. Almost every country has there differences among the people but that does not change their nationality. Nationality is the umbrella that can unite differing groups that desire to be together. Bavarians are different than the rest of Germany but they are still German. Switzerland is made up of multiple ethnic groups but they have decided to stay together and share in their culture and nationality. That is why I emphasized shared culture and interests. I know exactly what I am talking about.

You see, this is what pisses me off on the-coli. Here is your first quote:

every ethnic group/tribe/people with shared culture has their own country

And now you switch and talk about nationality, which is a totally different concept. Actually your second post makes my point: different ethnic groups/tribes/people can share the same nationality and have been doing so for centuries, to the point that people now think that, for example, "French" or "Italian" are homogeneous ethnic groups/people, while they are in fact various people that have been forced or chosen to live under one nationality. Hence, what I was saying: all ethnic groups/tribes/people in Europe DO NOT have their own state. Hell just look at the Basque culture, which stretches over two countries (Spain and France).
 
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