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:russ: anything not liberal propaganda to u niqqas?

Y'all need to learn some objectivity.:bryan:
Nah there's a few OG libertarians and libertarian-minded folks here dating back to KTL. You kinda popped up out of nowhere presenting libertarian talking points that sound pre-packaged like you're reading from a script bruh.

If that's really you in your avatar, post a pic holding a sign that reads "DEAD7-the coli."
 

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Ok, altruism is inevitable, it should be used to facilitate as much good as possible...

see how easy it is to make vague statements?
Altruism isnt as prevalent(or meaningful) as greed, but thats beside the point I guess.

What specifically about libertarianism do you find "lazy" and/or "greedy".:ld:
 

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Nah there's a few OG libertarians and libertarian-minded folks here dating back to KTL. You kinda popped up out of nowhere presenting libertarian talking points that sound pre-packaged like you're reading from a script bruh.

If that's really you in your avatar, post a pic holding a sign that reads "DEAD7-the coli."
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Altruism isnt as prevalent(or meaningful) as greed, but thats beside the point I guess.

What specifically about libertarianism do you find "lazy" and/or "greedy".:ld:

First of all, your assertion about altruism, and about greed are both totally baseless and opinions. How can we have an economic philosophy based on something so asinine as opinion? Just because you think in your own perspective that greed is more "meaningful" than altruism, it doesn't make it so and more importantly it doesn't make it relevant. That is what I find lazy about libertarian-ism, it requires no statistical or historical evidence, and usually the ideas are supported by flimsy philosophical parables like the one you just presented. The idea that the government is inherently inefficient regardless of the field or that the private sector by nature of being driven by profits is going to be more efficient does not have any evidence backing it up, it is all based on nonsense.
 

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First of all, your assertion about altruism, and about greed are both totally baseless and opinions. How can we have an economic philosophy based on something so asinine as opinion? Just because you think in your own perspective that greed is more "meaningful" than altruism, it doesn't make it so and more importantly it doesn't make it relevant. That is what I find lazy about libertarian-ism, it requires no statistical or historical evidence, and usually the ideas are supported by flimsy philosophical parables like the one you just presented. The idea that the government is inherently inefficient regardless of the field or that the private sector by nature of being driven by profits is going to be more efficient does not have any evidence backing it up, it is all based on nonsense.
No way you're serious. I refuse to believe you actually think this. :heh:
 

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Very interesting refutation of my points bro, It's nice that we had this conversation, I really learned a lot.

If I am wrong and altruism is anywhere close to greed in prevalence, then we dont need government to take money from people and redistribute it and care for the less fortunate, There would be ample charity... as libertarians currently contend...

Your faith in the goodness of people stands in direct opposition to your support for government...:wtf:


On a side note, reaching in your pocket and giving to others is compassion/altruism, having the government take money from other people by force, and give it to those who need it isnt.


But like you said its just an opinion :heh:
 

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I'll never understand why libertarian philosophy isn't hip hop's official political ideology. It basically translates to "fukk the police", "You just do you, umma do me", " Let me roll my weed", etc...Someone could write a whole book on the parallels. I mean for fukk's sake, if hustling doesn't == capitalism/free and open markets, then I don't know what does.

And every libertarian doesn't think Ayn Rand spoke some sort of gospel, she was misguided. I mean for one, she should have used "self-responsibility" instead of "selfishness" in her philosophy on Objectivism


This is actually correct [ in my opinion ] and I made a thread on SOHH years back saying just this, especially in terms of popular rap music.
 

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Government is inefficient because of a lack of incentive, i've worked for the government and seen it first hand. You probably have to at the DMV, Schools or other government offices.

The fact that this has to be proven to you is :mindblown:

but ill do my best. :smugdraper:
 

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If I am wrong and altruism is anywhere close to greed in prevalence, then we dont need government to take money from people and redistribute it and care for the less fortunate, There would be ample charity... as libertarians currently contend...

Your faith in the goodness of people stands in direct opposition to your support for government...:wtf:

On a side note, reaching in your pocket and giving to others is compassion/altruism, having the government take money from other people by force, and give it to those who need it isnt.


But like you said its just an opinion :heh:

See this is extremely flimsy and based on assumptions

Assumption 1. greed and altruism are objective; they are the furthest thing from it. My altruism is your greed, my injustice is your justice and so forth. There is no reason to base economics off this, it is in my view asinine.

Assumption 2. you assume that I have support for government and of itself, which is also not true. I support reason based economic initiatives based not on moral values but tried and tested programs which will help facilitate a lubricated economic environment which are conducive to growth.

You laugh when I say that you are talking about your opinion, when really that's all you or any other Libertarian talks about. If you want to debate me on Austrian economics, do your research on that and make a contention. If you want to talk about liberalization and the privatization model, talk to me about that with your substance. Discussions on morality and rationality when talking about a secular open society are totally nonsensical.
 
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