Libertarians, do you think asteroids should be left to the free market?

[Berniewood Hogan]

NASA AND THE US GOVERNMENT HAVE ALWAYS WORKED ALONGSIDE VARIOUS AEROSPACE COMPANIES TO ACHIEVE COMMON GOALS, BROTHER! IT'S NOT AN EITHER/OR PROBLEM, DUDE! AMERICA GETS THE NATIONAL ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF SPACE EXPLORATION WHILE BOEING, SKUNKWORKS, AND RAYTHEON GET SOME MONEY, MEAN GENE!

WE'VE BEEN COLLABORATING WITH RUSSIA'S SPACE PROGRAM SINCE EVEN BEFORE THE COLD WAR ENDED, SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, ANY REALISTIC ANTI-ASTEROID OPERATIONS ARE GOING TO INVOLVE INTERNATIONAL COOPERATION, BROTHER!

 

[MostReal]

I don't see why the free market would be a problem. competition with the government usually would breed success for one of the two.

 

[Piff Huxtable]

stupid thread

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

SINCE I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO CONVERT EACH OTHER TO DIFFERENT ECONOMIC PHILOSOPHIES, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME TECHNICAL IDEAS ABOUT HOW TO DEFLECT OR AVOID AN INCOMING KILLER ASTEROID, BROTHER!

YOU CAN'T JUST NUKE THEM SINCE THEY'LL BREAK INTO MILLIONS OF SHARDS AND BOMBARD THE PLANET, DUDE!

 

[iBrowse]

weak article....Upper Body strength is overrated....

Holla at me, when you squat or deadlift 4 plates though(lower body strength)

405lb deadlift is meh...

405lb squat would have me

 

[DEAD7]

SINCE I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO CONVERT EACH OTHER TO DIFFERENT ECONOMIC PHILOSOPHIES, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME TECHNICAL IDEAS ABOUT HOW TO DEFLECT OR AVOID AN INCOMING KILLER ASTEROID, BROTHER!

YOU CAN'T JUST NUKE THEM SINCE THEY'LL BREAK INTO MILLIONS OF SHARDS AND BOMBARD THE PLANET, DUDE!

At this point though(hypothetically obviously) I'd say we nuke it, and deal with the smaller impacts as best we can.


but who knows what idea could come from the open market

 

[the cac mamba]

If a massive rock n/h hits us, then it's Allah's will and his will alone.

then tell allah to suck a fat dikk and leave us alone

 

[USSInsiders]

then tell allah to suck a fat dikk and leave us alone

Take it up with his gracious honorable prophet Mohammad, peace and blessings upon him, he the only dude who politicked with the GOAT deity AKA Allah the most exalted

 

[Poitier]

Like the Rich wouldn't find a way to live while they screw the 99% over

Funny how we expect the crooks to all of sudden be altruistic in times of need

 

[DEAD7]

Like the Rich wouldn't find a way to live while they screw the 99% over

Funny how we expect the crooks to all of sudden be altruistic in times of need

 

[acri1]

I can't believe people are seriously arguing that we should leave asteroid detection to the free market.

SINCE I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO CONVERT EACH OTHER TO DIFFERENT ECONOMIC PHILOSOPHIES, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME TECHNICAL IDEAS ABOUT HOW TO DEFLECT OR AVOID AN INCOMING KILLER ASTEROID, BROTHER!

YOU CAN'T JUST NUKE THEM SINCE THEY'LL BREAK INTO MILLIONS OF SHARDS AND BOMBARD THE PLANET, DUDE!

Best idea I've heard is to use something to nudge it out of the collision course.

If we knew decades in advance that an asteroid was headed for earth, we could maybe attach a spacecraft to it and push it until it changed orbit. Or maybe landing a spacecraft onto the asteroid, drilling into it, and ejecting material from it (thus reducing it's mass and changing its orbit). Of course that kind of stuff would only work if we had lots of advance notice. If we didn't then we'd have to nuke it and hope for the best.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

I can't believe people are seriously arguing that we should leave asteroid detection to the free market.



Best idea I've heard is to use something to nudge it out of the collision course.

If we knew decades in advance that an asteroid was headed for earth, we could maybe attach a spacecraft to it and push it until it changed orbit. Or maybe landing a spacecraft onto the asteroid, drilling into it, and ejecting material from it (thus reducing it's mass and changing its orbit). Of course that kind of stuff would only work if we had lots of advance notice. If we didn't then we'd have to nuke it and hope for the best.

Big Government is inefficent.
The freemarket has our best interest at heart.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Are you insinuating that the market is not more innovative than government? or that if NASA couldnt do it in 10yrs no one can?

Secondly NASA has a monopoly on manned space missions, so there is no way to determine if there is or isnt a market there til its opened up... Might be, might not.

This isn't about capacity to innovate, It's about goals, missions and incentives. No private business is going to monitor and try to develop strategies to counter NEOs out of the goodness of altruistic civic concern because it's not in their financial interest.

NASA AND THE US GOVERNMENT HAVE ALWAYS WORKED ALONGSIDE VARIOUS AEROSPACE COMPANIES TO ACHIEVE COMMON GOALS, BROTHER! IT'S NOT AN EITHER/OR PROBLEM, DUDE! AMERICA GETS THE NATIONAL ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF SPACE EXPLORATION WHILE BOEING, SKUNKWORKS, AND RAYTHEON GET SOME MONEY, MEAN GENE!

WE'VE BEEN COLLABORATING WITH RUSSIA'S SPACE PROGRAM SINCE EVEN BEFORE THE COLD WAR ENDED, SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, ANY REALISTIC ANTI-ASTEROID OPERATIONS ARE GOING TO INVOLVE INTERNATIONAL COOPERATION, BROTHER!

Exactly. I never suggested it was either/or. NASA has been contracting work to private companies for a while now and they've increased it in recent years. The private sector provides the intellectual capital and resources, andNASA provides the funding, the mission statement, and the coordination.

My point was the government is necessary and this is not an undertaking that you could leave to the free market for obvious reasons, and I posed it to libertarians and anarchocapitalist types.

stupid thread

fukk up clown.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

I don't see why the free market would be a problem. competition with the government usually would breed success for one of the two.

Compete? No. This isn't a case where public/private competition applies. There's no commodity being sold. It's not like private and public health insurers competing, or UPS and FedEx competing with the post office.

There is no market incentive at all for a private company to invest millions out of their business costs to develop anti-NEO monitoring and counter-strategies.

Now collaboration between the private and public sector? Yeah definitely, and that's already going on as Hogan pointed out earlier. The incentive for the private sector there is fat government contracts.

 

[88m3]

Compete? No. This isn't a case where public/private competition applies. There's no commodity being sold. It's not like private and public health insurers competing, or UPS and FedEx competing with the post office.

There is no market incentive at all for a private company to invest millions out of their business costs to develop anti-NEO monitoring and counter-strategies.

Now collaboration between the private and public sector? Yeah definitely, and that's already going on as Hogan pointed out earlier. The incentive for the private sector there is fat government contracts.

The free market is all about taking risks, that's what you ivory tower dwelling, liberal, welfare queens don't understand!