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Can we talk about how the media mainstreamed Trump during the primaries and legitimized and popularized him with their coverage? They helped create the Trump regime.

Meanwhile, before the primaries began, Bernie got some ridiculously small amount of coverage time in all of 2015?

Do we really think that if Bernie's platform was given a fair shake in terms of coverage, things wouldn't have turned out much differently?

laughable.

Thanks for not voting you're as culpable as anyone.
 

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Can we talk about how the media mainstreamed Trump during the primaries and legitimized and popularized him with their coverage? They helped create the Trump regime.

Meanwhile, before the primaries began, Bernie got some ridiculously small amount of coverage time in all of 2015?

Do we really think that if Bernie's platform was given a fair shake in terms of coverage, things wouldn't have turned out much differently?
Bernie should have made his campaign more. provocative or spent the money to get his message out.

Trump did it. There's no excuse.
 
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Bernie's success for rust belt voters was because he ran the same Campaign Trump ran there. He was Anti NATFA and Anti TPP and blamed that for the loss of manufacturing jobs. They didn't give a damn about his progressive policies.
And from this thread, most of the dems still haven't embraced this reality. Instead it's about blaming the progressives, racist, sexist, and russia for Trump's victory
 

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He beat everyone. Democrats lost local, state, and national. What about Bernie do you think was going to swing rust belt voters. He was actually worse for them than Hillary.

Bernie won Michigan and Wisconsin in the primary. A lot of these former Obama voters who voted for Trump wouldn't have gone to that idiot had Bernie been the nominee.

I would think he'd have been campaigning all summer and fall there as Obama did in 2008/2012. The Clinton campaign arrogantly disregarded the states even when the unions told them that something was wrong during the fall.

But that's a moot point. Bernie lost in the primaries and came up short. It is what it is. Hillary may have ran a progressive platform but her campaign didn't bother going to the people who the Dems have really abandoned cause the Clintons completed the transformation of the Dems into being a socially liberal, corporation friendly party.
 

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Bernie won Michigan and Wisconsin in the primary. A lot of these former Obama voters who voted for Trump wouldn't have gone to that idiot had Bernie been the nominee.

I would think he'd have been campaigning all summer and fall there as Obama did in 2008/2012. The Clinton campaign arrogantly disregarded the states even when the unions told them that something was wrong during the fall.

But that's a moot point. Bernie lost in the primaries and came up short. It is what it is. Hillary may have ran a progressive platform but her campaign didn't bother going to the people who the Dems have really abandoned cause the Clintons completed the transformation of the Dems into being a socially liberal, corporation friendly party.

so much faulty logic so little time


It sounds good though!
 

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Bernie's success for rust belt voters was because he ran the same Campaign Trump ran there. He was Anti NATFA and Anti TPP and blamed that for the loss of manufacturing jobs. They didn't give a damn about his progressive policies.

You're the one calling them progressives. They just called themselves Democrats before this election. Those same workers that switched over to Trump would have stayed if they had Bernie who had the same trade and jobs policy as Trump. Those are the most important issues for these guys and you're trying to deny them their self-interest. These are guys that have voted Democrat for decades. They switched their vote because their traditional party put in a candidate that was going against their highest priority issues. If Bernie was in the running they would have no reason to switch sides as both sides would be addressing their needs.
 
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