Let's talk about the MIND. :mindblown:

[Dooby]

This is the first definition.

Mind -
1. The element of a person that enables them to be aware of the world and their experiences, to think, and to feel; the faculty of consciousness and thought

Is the mind something that physically exists?

How would something that does not physically exist enable a person, with a unique mind, to be aware of the world and their experiences?

Is the mind constructed over time?
Or is it something that exists when you were born and then reacts to its surroundings?

Are you, as in YOU, a unique person, your mind? When you die, do you lose your mind?

Are we simply minds? Minds acting through a physical body? A physical receptor, the brain perhaps??

What if we were to somehow completely recreate your dna to the subatomic level and the mini switches. Would that creation have your mind?

If you were to die and there were an exact replication of Earth and its circumstances, to recreate you, would that actually, be you? Down to the same exact DNA? Would you share minds? [This is actually possible. The universe is infinite, and infinite possibilities mean you will be recreated again]

Where IS the mind? Does it exist within the brain? Is the mind simply a non physical product of the brain?

cuz damn if our brains are at a majority, constructed the same at birth how do we have unique mindsets?

So does that mean the mind is NOT in the brain??

So does the mind have to do with DNA??

Brehs help me out I'm havin an existential crisis here thinkin hard as hell about all this

 

[OsO]

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

i have stated it before on here in passing, but i do not think the mind is in the brain. i think the brain is able to receive the signals from the mind, and helps filter out what our dna allows us to perceive. our soul/spirit/learned habits/physical desires determine which thoughts are received.

if there are infinite possibilities, then it is also possible that we will not be re-created.

hate to throw more of a burden on your crisis, but are we really unique minds?

if there are infinite possibilities, and the mind is not in the brain, then it follows that we all may share the same mind, just access different thoughts at different times. shyt, we have all seen those pictures showing earth as a tiny dot, from an extraterrestial being's perspective, we may as well be considered one giant piece of matter. and from another being's perspective, us, and that original extraterrestial may be lumped together.

ill wait.

 

[OsO]

i have stated it before on here in passing, but i do not think the mind is in the brain. i think the brain is able to receive the signals from the mind, and helps filter out what our dna allows us to perceive. our soul/spirit/learned habits/physical desires determine which thoughts are received.

if there are infinite possibilities, then it is also possible that we will not be re-created.

hate to throw more of a burden on your crisis, but are we really unique minds?

if there are infinite possibilities, and the mind is not in the brain, then it follows that we all may share the same mind, just access different thoughts at different times. shyt, we have all seen those pictures showing earth as a tiny dot, from an extraterrestial being's perspective, we may as well be considered one giant piece of matter. and from another being's perspective, us, and that original extraterrestial may be lumped together.

ill wait.

what do you think is the most compelling piece of evidence that the mind is not confined to the brain?

 

[daze23]

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

what do you think is the most compelling piece of evidence that the mind is not confined to the brain?

astral projection by far
sleep/dreams to a lesser extent
supernatural entities to a degree, though it is near impossible to verify
afterlife, though same applies as above

synchronicity is underrated as evidence as well, but the connection is a bit muddy for most to grasp

 

[Dooby]

i have stated it before on here in passing, but i do not think the mind is in the brain. i think the brain is able to receive the signals from the mind, and helps filter out what our dna allows us to perceive. our soul/spirit/learned habits/physical desires determine which thoughts are received.

if there are infinite possibilities, then it is also possible that we will not be re-created.

hate to throw more of a burden on your crisis, but are we really unique minds?

if there are infinite possibilities, and the mind is not in the brain, then it follows that we all may share the same mind, just access different thoughts at different times. shyt, we have all seen those pictures showing earth as a tiny dot, from an extraterrestial being's perspective, we may as well be considered one giant piece of matter. and from another being's perspective, us, and that original extraterrestial may be lumped together.

ill wait.

Your post in the previous thread actually inspired this one.

Wait a second infinite possibilities also mean the possibility of it not being recreated? How do you figure?

Well we have unique personalities so that's what would lead me to believe we have unique minds. People usually think the mind is something constructed from the brain but our brains are mostly the same, it's the DNA that's widely different.

That's what I'm kind of thinking. What if Earth and all its history and positioning in a galaxy just like the milky way was recreated somewhere far away...would we die in this world, and then live in that one? It's just crazy to think that if someone was recreated to their very subatomic particles...they would be a different person. It doesn't really sit well with me. If that's the case, why and how are you conscious within the body you're in right now?

 

[Dooby]

astral projection by far
sleep/dreams to a lesser extent
supernatural entities to a degree, though it is near impossible to verify
afterlife, though same applies as above

synchronicity is underrated as evidence as well, but the connection is a bit muddy for most to grasp

Man there was a point in time I got deep in astral projection to the point that's all I could think of. I've been trying to experience one myself and verify it by like checking up on what my Grandmas doing 100s of miles away, then call her later on to verify what I've seen.

Crazy stuff.

Have you ever experienced it

 

[ZEB WALTON]

my dude has astral projected/OBE's and he went a lil haywire afterwards. be careful with that

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

Man there was a point in time I got deep in astral projection to the point that's all I could think of. I've been trying to experience one myself and verify it by like checking up on what my Grandmas doing 100s of miles away, then call her later on to verify what I've seen.

Crazy stuff.

Have you ever experienced it

sent you a pm. will read through your other post and respond shortly.

 

[Dooby]

How it feels to have a stroke - YouTube

Man that was so amazing man. I appreciate you posting that.

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

possibly we are all actually part of one mind another reason why alot of people claim to have advanced mental capabilities like telepathy...because they have reached a point in life where they are open to connecting with other people who are also connected or on the verge of connecting with this "universal mind" to the point were they can share the same exact thought or do the same action at the very same time or end up saying the same thing out of "nowhere"

 

[Pool_Shark]

I see the brain like a parasite. It uses the host (body) to do and get things that produce endorphins and feelings of peace, tranquility, happiness. Everything that is done or has ever been done involving humans, was for some brain or brains to create a situation were the chemicals that can produce euphoric feelings are released because thats what the brain organism uses to continue the advancement and reproduction of brains. That's why I see this digital age a step in the brain finding a way to escape this weak host that is able to get old sick and die

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

Your post in the previous thread actually inspired this one.

Wait a second infinite possibilities also mean the possibility of it not being recreated? How do you figure?

if there are infinite possibilities, then not being recreated has to be one of them. how would you rule that out

Well we have unique personalities so that's what would lead me to believe we have unique minds. People usually think the mind is something constructed from the brain but our brains are mostly the same, it's the DNA that's widely different.

exactly, so the dna is a factor in the unique personalities. that comes from your genetic history, your parents, their parents, their parents etc.

we are just as likely to be an infinite combination of our ancestors and have nothing unique to us at all except the fraction you were out of your father's seed n/h to make it to the fraction that is your mother's eggs out of all the mother's eggs. which is essentially an infinitesimal and explains the minimal genetic variance that humans have amongst humans, mammals amongst mammals and etc down the line amongst the food chain. i have much more faith in saying that i am unique in comparison to a tiger, than i am to say i am unique to you, for example. and us humans, shyt on animals. its a tragedy really. in any event, our dna is far from widely different.

then, when you factor in the similarity in brains as you mentioned, its starts to get even smaller, although you could argue the brain difference is directly related to the genetic difference, factoring in evolutionary factors such as recessive/dominant and etc.

and to top it all off, since we cannot prove that the mind is even inside the brain, with any certainty at all, perhaps, dare i say it, ever...to use something as metaphysical as the mind as a justification for uniqueness, it starts to seem like a humanistic plea of desperation because its painful and depressing to admit that we may not be at all different and any difference is simply a bias to our individual perceptions vis a vis life experiences. its true to a point, yet it is so minimal on the cosmic scale of universal happenings that we, as a species, and largely as a planet, should put aside differences and focus on more important subjects..like how we can create a harmonious planet that does not strive to disadvantage others in order to advantage the self. we may not even have a self. we should focus on communicating better with each other, then with other animals and nature at large so we can all benefit to the maximum and sustain a future for that way of life that will enable generations after us to live as pleasurable as possible.

and we argue about rap music, sports and kill each other over women.



can you, at the moment you're reading my exact flow of consciousness writing, if you are focusing fully on comprehension, prove to me that we are of different minds, or just of different times? you are simply reading exactly what i am typing, or was.

That's what I'm kind of thinking. What if Earth and all its history and positioning in a galaxy just like the milky way was recreated somewhere far away...would we die in this world, and then live in that one? It's just crazy to think that if someone was recreated to their very subatomic particles...they would be a different person. It doesn't really sit well with me. If that's the case, why and how are you conscious within the body you're in right now?

no-one will ever be you but you. its truly the miracle of life isnt it.

 

[Dooby]

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The Esposito Himself

Well, it's a paradox if you think about it. Infinite possibilities of something being possible, positive or negative, should overrule the positive or negative. For example, the infinitely possible can create a world full of unicorns. But because the possibilities are infinite, there's the possibility that there will not be a world full of unicorns. Only one possibility can exist but they both exist because the possibilities are infinite. Paradox. But there can ALSO be the possibility that both a negative and positive instance can exist...but that can't be POSSIBLE!!!

So infinite possibilities can't POSSIBLY exist is my guess. So I guess I overstepped my logic a bit.



Did you watch that video daze23 posted? It kind of goes hand in hand with what you're saying. The right hemisphere of the brain's information completely being dominated by the information accounted by the mind, from the left hemisphere of the brain. Right hemisphere promotes a oneness with the universe. The left, individuality.

And according to the dictionary, our minds are one...but separated by time:

the faculty of consciousness and thought

As I'm reading through your thoughts they become my own...