Lets talk about KRS-One being the most overrated oldschool lyricist

[Black Ball]

Now hold on thereShammago. I promise you this aint no diss thread.

KRS-One was alot of things:
Dope Artist
Great Music
Elite Mic Presence
Dropped mad knowledge

But dude was also a very simple rhymer(which is fine) who always got credit for being an elite or complex rhymer on the level of his comtemporaries.

Rakim
Kool G. Rap
Big Daddy Kane
etc...

Dude wasn't no where near seeing those cats in that category of rhyming.

I bet most would put dude over the likes of Ice Cube or LL Cool J in that category simply based on reputation & subject matter. But I just don't hear it and never have.

 

[Majestic Pape]

Not enough multis for you?

 

[Black Ball]

Not enough multis for you?

However you want to gage it, dude wasn't rhyming like those cats, but seemingly was rated equally with them as a rhymer. Why is that? East Coast bias? I don't know.

KRS was one of the hardest though, but at some point it became accepted that he was one of the most elite rhymers of his day.

 

[SuburbanPimp]

First, me personally I would have put LL Cool J, Big Daddy Kane, and Rakim in front of him anyway...


But I never looked at KRS one as this lyrically juggernaut, he was the teacher and alot times his shyt was simple, but I thought it was effective cause he was usually trying to get a message across and you don't people trying to decipher your lyrics if you trying to inform them...

I don't really think he is that Overrated cause I just don't know that many people that rate him that highly. I never really listen to to his and BDP albums a whole lot, but there wre always 2-3 songs that i felt... This one is probably my favorite KRS one

 

[TrapHouse Rock]

lets talk about this one star



few people call him the goat, so i dont see this overrated talk

 

[Awesome Wells]

When has being "complex" ever equated to you being a better MC? And WTF is that anyway? "Complex"?

Rakim, Kane and G Rap were phenomenal lyricists, but there's more to being a great MC, than just being ill with multi's and punchlines. None of those three rocks a show like Kris did. And to be honest, he probably has more classic records than all three too.

Dude's a Top 3 MC of all-time. And it ain't due to subject matter.

 

[Black Ball]

When has being "complex" ever equated to you being a better MC? And WTF is that anyway? "Complex"?

Rakim, Kane and G Rap were phenomenal lyricists, but there's more to being a great MC, than just being ill with multi's and punchlines. None of those three rocks a show like Kris did. And to be honest, he probably has more classic records than all three too.

Dude's a Top 3 MC of all-time. And it ain't due to subject matter.

I agree with everything you said except for him being Top 3 of alltime.

So you agree with what I said then?

 

[EducatedBrothaFromTheBank]

When has being "complex" ever equated to you being a better MC? And WTF is that anyway? "Complex"?

Rakim, Kane and G Rap were phenomenal lyricists, but there's more to being a great MC, than just being ill with multi's and punchlines. None of those three rocks a show like Kris did. And to be honest, he probably has more classic records than all three too.

Dude's a Top 3 MC of all-time. And it ain't due to subject matter.

reminds me of the early 2000's message board talk about what was a great "lyricist" and the nerdy fans came out in droves stating their support for guys like Chino XL, Del, Canibus, etc..

KRS One is bigger then a "lyricist" he's a legend...

 

[Awesome Wells]

I agree with everything you said except for him being Top 3 of alltime.

So you agree with what I said then?

I grow up on G Rap, Rakim, KRS and Kane's best work. Thing was, KRS had joints for me for mad years. He was around before them, and had a career that lasted longer than theirs, and still dropped heat and classics. So I kinda always had KRS ahead of those three we mentioned earlier. That's my dude!

I just don't think many embody what Hip Hop or being an MC is, more than he does. He was the complete MC. The dude had no weaknesses. The same can't be said for the other three, as great as they are.

 

[Black Ball]

First, me personally I would have put LL Cool J, Big Daddy Kane, and Rakim in front of him anyway...


But I never looked at KRS one as this lyrically juggernaut, he was the teacher and alot times his shyt was simple, but I thought it was effective cause he was usually trying to get a message across and you don't people trying to decipher your lyrics if you trying to inform them...

I don't really think he is that Overrated cause I just don't know that many people that rate him that highly. I never really listen to to his and BDP albums a whole lot, but there wre always 2-3 songs that i felt... This one is probably my favorite KRS one

KRS-One "Love's Gonna Get'cha (Material Love)" - YouTube

Maybe I'm wrong, but I always got the sense that KRS fans considered him one of the best to ever do it lyrically.

Maybe poeple don't rank him that high any more over the course of hip hop history, but I'm talking how he was viewed amongst his comtemporaries in his prime.

I remember getting shytted on Sohh for saying Cube was iller than dude lyrically even though, Cube for whatever reason never had that reputation or credit as a pure rhymer.

 

[Awesome Wells]

reminds me of the early 2000's message board talk about what was a great "lyricist" and the nerdy fans came out in droves stating their support for guys like Chino XL, Del, Canibus, etc..

KRS One is bigger then a "lyricist" he's a legend...

This.

I remember back on SOHH in like 2001, when cats were callin' 'Bis a Top 10 MC because he was so "complex" with his words. LOL!!

I never understood that argument at all.

 

[Black Ball]

reminds me of the early 2000's message board talk about what was a great "lyricist" and the nerdy fans came out in droves stating their support for guys like Chino XL, Del, Canibus, etc..

KRS One is bigger then a "lyricist" he's a legend...

What was said in the OP that makes you think that I think anything different?

KRS was great, is an All-time great, mad classic songs & albums. But he was a simple rhymer(not wack in any sense). I'm not saying that as a diss, but as a matter or fact. But I think his biggest fans probably do take offense to that.

 

[Blackking]

In school they never taught bout hamburgers or steak

 

[Broccoli Rob]

Let's not talk about it, cus it's not true.

He's kind of outta touch now, but back then he was the shlt and spit with the best of them.

You must not have been around to put it in context.

Next.

 

[the rhyme king]

in terms of complex rhyme schemes metaphors wordplay punchlines etc

no he was not complex rakim g rap kane masta ace and ice cue were doper then chris