Let's talk about ELECTRICITY...

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so where do we go with this?
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thoughts?
K. C. Cole majored in political science and later on became a free-lance writer. She just writes scientific stuff that the general public understands. For those who studied electricity, it's like, big deal, what do you want? A medal. For others, it's interesting.
We know there is a lot of power in a lightning bolt but we know it's so much that we can't feasibly harness it, and haven't even tried to either. Isn't that odd?
 

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Electricity really isnt that mysterious in 2013. shyt since last century really.

oh great... then maybe you can tell us where electricity comes from... and why flowing electrons create waves of electricity that we humans can use both internally and externally for energy.
 

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oh great... then maybe you can tell us where electricity comes from... and why flowing electrons create waves of electricity that we humans can use both internally and externally for energy.
You can google that.I understand the concept but i'm not a physicist, so they can give you a clearer understanding than i can. All electricity is, is the flow of electric charge. The property coming from the charge carrier (electron or proton). Let me google that for you

EDIT: Read this. HowStuffWorks "Generators"

Also, I think you need to rephrase the second half of your question, as it isnt a very good question. Its like asking, why is water wet. Or maybe I dont understand well enough to answer it. Maybe you can clarify.
 
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Ya we run on electricity but we can't even power a 1 volt battery..our bodies generate between 10-100 milli volts..
Im going to go ahead and debunk this myth as well. Most animals take advantage of electricity for muscle contraction and nervous system function...but we do not run on electricity. We produce energy through the combustion of hydrocarbons....like a car. Only instead of digesting gasoline we digest carbohydrates. That's where most of our energy comes from.
 

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oh great... then maybe you can tell us where electricity comes from... and why flowing electrons create waves of electricity that we humans can use both internally and externally for energy.

Electricity doesn't "come" from anything. It's a measure of flow. 0 flow = 0 electricity. It would be like saying the river comes from water. While in a way that's correct, a river is a flow of water, it only occurs when there is a force from pressure/gravity pushing water from one direction to another. if there is no water flowing, it's not a river, it's a lake. A more accurate question would be what does electricity consist of, of which you can say charged particles. Now, some interesting question/concepts:

On a philosophical level:

Electricity naturally occurs in waves. Everything we are using now, is an approximation of the electron wave. But why a wave? Why not squares, circles? Why is it not continuous within itself, but never lost or gained? How does something that moves linearly produce 3-dimensional effects, after all, you don't get drawn to a river's magnetism? How can a real thing be in two places at once? How can we correlate the formulation of electricity with evolution, that all this happened by chance? You mean to tell me out of nothing evolved electromagnetic flux? Why are there constants in electrical mechanics/physics?

On a mathematical level:

How can we include gravity in a unified field theory (UFT) ? Why does gravity not really fit in to the UFT at the molecular level?

The coolest thing about electricity is that it fundamentally challenges human reasoning in the normal sense. A human mind can't rationalize being in two places at once, about moving while technically standing still, etc etc. Electricity IMHO is one of the "coolest" phenomena in the scientific world, because at the molecular level nothing is intuitive, it runs contrary to anything the average person might think logical/reasonable.
 

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You can google that.I understand the concept but i'm not a physicist, so they can give you a clearer understanding than i can. All electricity is, is the flow of electric charge. The property coming from the charge carrier (electron or proton). Let me google that for you

EDIT: Read this. HowStuffWorks "Generators"

Also, I think you need to rephrase the second half of your question, as it isnt a very good question. Its like asking, why is water wet. Or maybe I dont understand well enough to answer it. Maybe you can clarify.


all these flowing particles create an energy we call electricity right... and i am asking where all this energy originates from, and why it's even produced when particles move?

ill skip to the end and tell you im really just being an a$$hole because i felt your initial comment was a little braggadocio saying we know almost all about electricity, when in reality we dont know its full range of properties or applications, and we dont even know it's origin. electricity, like most natural phenomena, is only partially understood by humanity... we dont know how any of this "stuff' got here (although we have some pretty interesting theories), or why any of these atoms and elements behave the way they do.

that is not to say humans arent highly accomplished in the area of studying and applying natural phenomena. when compared to other life forms on the earth what the human race has been able to do with the natural resources of the earth combined with harnessing certain aspects of electricity is absolutely amazing.

but how can we say we know almost everything about electricity when we dont even have a full understanding of electricity to even know what we dont know? you understand? because if you are not 100% learned in a topic, then in reality you dont know whether you are 2% learned or 99% learned in that topic.
 

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Im going to go ahead and debunk this myth as well. Most animals take advantage of electricity for muscle contraction and nervous system function...but we do not run on electricity. We produce energy through the combustion of hydrocarbons....like a car. Only instead of digesting gasoline we digest carbohydrates. That's where most of our energy comes from.

first off, nervous system function is included in just about every major process in our body, thus so is "electricity." how do you think the energy created by those hydrocarbons get distributed throughout the body? chemicals and electricity. no matter what the physiological process, the electricity is the facilitator. this would also depend at what level of charge something ceases to be "electricity" in your system of understanding.

but nonetheless i think youre trying a little too hard to discredit the role electricity plays in the functioning of the human body.
 

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Electricity doesn't "come" from anything.

everything has to have an origin... unless youre implying electric charges and electricity have always been here and WILL always be here. in that case, is electricity God?

It's a measure of flow. 0 flow = 0 electricity. It would be like saying the river comes from water. While in a way that's correct, a river is a flow of water, it only occurs when there is a force from pressure/gravity pushing water from one direction to another. if there is no water flowing, it's not a river, it's a lake.

but does a lake every really sit still? does anything ever sit still? one constant of the universe is constant motion on the subatomic level, so is there ever a time the space surrounding us has a "flow" of absolute zero? we are in the earth's magnetic field so i cant imagine there is an absolute zero flow of energy anywhere on the earth.

A more accurate question would be what does electricity consist of, of which you can say charged particles. Now, some interesting question/concepts:

On a philosophical level:

Electricity naturally occurs in waves. Everything we are using now, is an approximation of the electron wave. But why a wave? Why not squares, circles? Why is it not continuous within itself, but never lost or gained? How does something that moves linearly produce 3-dimensional effects, after all, you don't get drawn to a river's magnetism? How can a real thing be in two places at once? How can we correlate the formulation of electricity with evolution, that all this happened by chance? You mean to tell me out of nothing evolved electromagnetic flux? Why are there constants in electrical mechanics/physics?

it's not linear it's a spiral, like a 3D sine wave. and what are your thoughts on the questions in the red?

On a mathematical level:

How can we include gravity in a unified field theory (UFT) ? Why does gravity not really fit in to the UFT at the molecular level?

The coolest thing about electricity is that it fundamentally challenges human reasoning in the normal sense. A human mind can't rationalize being in two places at once, about moving while technically standing still, etc etc. Electricity IMHO is one of the "coolest" phenomena in the scientific world, because at the molecular level nothing is intuitive, it runs contrary to anything the average person might think logical/reasonable.

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