Let's talk about bum ass Carson palmer
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yseJ
Empire strikes back
its same shyt, different toilet at this point
unless youre nostalgic for carson when he was actually good before the surgery or have a hard on for big arms...him and fitz have the same fukkin stats
Xtraz2
Superstar
MegaTronBomb!
Power is in my hair nikka
We use the W-L record to determine if the QB is *not* starting material, don't we?
What's the criteria? QB rating? Jersey sales?
for what it's worth... Palmer accrued 20 of those L's on very bad raider teams...the fact they even went 8-8 the year Al died was some overachieving type shyt.
Palmer is washed, but still better than average...his play isn't even close to being worth that contract he signed.
the W-L record being a "stat" for QB's in the NFL is almost as bad as it is for MLB pitchers.
THE MACHINE
night owl
Carson is the white McNabb at this point.
At this very point yeah they are both
but Palmer was nowhere near the QB McNabb was and if Palmer had to play in the Philly market during his career the pressure would have destroyed him.THE MACHINE
night owl
But you have to admit Palmer isn't the type of QB that makes bad teams better. He's the guy that puts up 320 yards 2tds and 2 picks. Looks decent in the box score and will have you thinking "this poor b*stard needs help." But when you watch it, he throws for 80 yards and 2 picks in the first half, one goes back for a TD and the whole second half they are playing catch up so he piles up meaningless stats to lose by 14.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
:thefucc:
Did he tell the Raiders to trade him for 2 1sts?
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
but he the one who bytched and cried his way out of Cincy and forced whomevers hand. And he signed a big ass contract to play for Oakland.
The trade coulda been for a 6th round pick, and it still would not have worked out.
MegaTronBomb!
Power is in my hair nikka
That's a given, it's just that nobody really wants to admit how bad the Raiders were to begin with.
Carson has always been that guy if you surround him with quality, he's gonna look great, and make them look great too.... he just doesn't have that dynamic factor to him like a Brees or a Peyton. he's not gonna make a so-so player look like he's underrated.
But the Raiders were flat out awful last season..and it was damn near the apex of nearly a decade of bad drafting,traded picks,underachieving players and albatross contracts( his being one of them)
He's pretty much Brett Farve, without the media's "Youthful passion" excuse for throwing picks and making
decisions.
yseJ
Empire strikes back
That's a given, it's just that nobody really wants to admit how bad the Raiders were to begin with.
Carson has always been that guy if you surround him with quality, he's gonna look great, and make them look great too.... he just doesn't have that dynamic factor to him like a Brees or a Peyton. he's not gonna make a so-so player look like he's underrated.
But the Raiders were flat out awful last season..and it was damn near the apex of nearly a decade of bad drafting,traded picks,underachieving players and albatross contracts( his being one of them)
He's pretty much Brett Farve, without the media's "Youthful passion" excuse for throwing picks and making
I could agree with this if this was about carson pre-injury
61 Corpses
The Breh
:deadcena: at these delusional ass nikkas thinking Palmer is still a starter in this league
Not many players career trajectory has changed like Carson's did. In 2005/2006 everyone and their mama thought he was destined to be next after Peyton and Brady but I think that arm injury messed him up more than people think. He has had some decent seasons since then but he hasn't been an elite QB in about six or seven years now.