Let's take a look back at all the sneak dissing Biggie did aimed at Pac on LAD

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this nikka wrote a whole story about pac like he knew the nikka :mjlol:

at the end of the day no one knows who was really real unless they experienced the lifestyle of said rapper first hand..

which is why i chose to keep it on wax in the first place... and on wax... pac loses.. period.

now to me, his 17 year old video is alot more questionable than a dikk sucking line... or a story nas made up after big died :heh:

Oh so now you don't care whos fake no more after I called you out for speculating:sas2:....I didn't write a story I said the same shyt you just repeated and agreed with:mjlol:...and it was a video of Dilla cosigning Nas story I would post it if I can find it but I got a feeling you would just make up more excuses so I wont waste my time with you:laff:
 
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Oh so now you don't care whos fake no more after I called you out for speculating:sas2:....I didn't write a story I said the same shyt you just repeated and agreed with:mjlol:...and it was a video of Dilla cosigning Nas story I would post it if I can find it but I got a feeling you would just make up more excuses so I wont waste my time with you:laff:

my point was... it's all speculation at the end of the day, whether i do it or you do it. i'm not in competition with u breh :heh:

just know on wax it'll forever be big > pac :sas2:
 

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At the end of the day, Pac was wrong for his FVCK BIGGIE campaign and what's really sad about the whole sh!t is that he let Suge influence the majority of the sh!t he was doing. He prolonged the anti-Biggie attacks for money but only secured more money for Suge and died almost broke.

Well, blame on Pac, not Suge.

Look at Snoop Dogg and Dr.Dre?.......why couldn't Pac do the same? Pac just caught up in the moments with the wrong, people, street dudes, etc. He was young and stupid. I love Pac music but again, he choose this way.
 

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Alright guys. This has turn into Pandora's Hip Hop Box. We can argue for days on end on who was right and who was wrong. The bottom line is their both gone and they were both geniuses. This photo has become the symbol of their friendship. Here is Biggie, underground just coming up. Here is Pac on his 2nd LP having a little success with "I get around" and "Keep your Head Up". A NaS lyric comes to mind:


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"A thug changes, and Love Changes, and best friends become Strangers"



I didn't realize about that pic until now so is that Marlon Wayans on the far right?
 

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The same way Biggie was going to be on "Thug Life" and possibly "Me against the World", Pac also may have been on "Ready To Die" as they were working together around 93-94 time when Big was recording the album. It was in the recording session for this song "House of Pain" but it was cut from the album and remained underground. The song was 1st remixed for the "Born Again" album featuring Joe Hooker but that version ended up not being on the album. It was remixed again for Biggie's "Duets" album and featured Mary J and NaS and was produced by Just Blaze. But this is the original version. It was Biggie featuring Tupac and Stretch over a westcoast sounding beat. I believe Easy Mo Bee might of produced it but I'm not sure:



It def sounds like Easy Mo Bee produced that song.
 

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I think a lot of this is true & it's not really accurate for people to say Pac influenced Biggie's style. Pac gave him advice on the business side of things but it's clear BIG took that advice & ran with it his own way. They were 2 different emcees. If you wanted to compare BIG's style he was a combo of these 3 ATG's:

1- Big Daddy Kane
2- Slick Rick
3- Kool G Rap

BIG was heavily influenced by those 3 & it's pretty obvious.

I think what set Pac off was seeing Big go from unsigned hype in The Source to being called King and the greatest in the space of like a year. In his deluded mind Pac saw that as his position and he got extremely jealous.
Seeing Big take hiphop for himself and not needing Pac had to have devastated him.
 

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I think what set Pac off was seeing Big go from unsigned hype in The Source to being called King and the greatest in the space of like a year. In his deluded mind Pac saw that as his position and he got extremely jealous.
Seeing Big take hiphop for himself and not needing Pac had to have devastated him.
Naw,He said biggie was screaming thuglife and wearing his jewelry,sleeping on his couch,fukking hoes pac gave him then acting like he wasnt really down with pac once he blew. Also acting like a bytch after Pac got shot,also releasing who shot ya,after pac was shot up and imprisoned.
Pac came out,removed him from the top slot,embarrased him lyrically,fukked his wife and sonned him.
 

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Naw,He said biggie was screaming thuglife and wearing his jewelry,sleeping on his couch,fukking hoes pac gave him then acting like he wasnt really down with pac once he blew. Also acting like a bytch after Pac got shot,also releasing who shot ya,after pac was shot up and imprisoned.
Pac came out,removed him from the top slot,embarrased him lyrically,fukked his wife and sonned him.

youre mentioning things in Pacs head and not in reality. :mjgrin:

but like you said he slept on Pacs couch..that must have stung Pac bad to see a new rapper he let crash on his dusty sofa get more respect than him and surpass him to the point he was forced to run to the studio and magazines to rant and rave like a scorned bytch.
 

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youre mentioning things in Pacs head and not in reality. :mjgrin:

but like you said he slept on Pacs couch..that must have stung Pac bad to see a new rapper he let crash on his dusty sofa get more respect than him and surpass him to the point he was forced to run to the studio and magazines to rant and rave like a scorned bytch.
It's cool, he fukked his coke whore wife.
 
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Reality is Pac did say "fukk NY" in that NY'87 song. Reality is also the first Ru talking on the track aka Quik who said the East Coast is the enemy, is the same man who ran up on Biggie the night he got that long kiss goodnight. Bet y'all missed this lil subliminal he threw at biggie "I'm a straighter shot than Raphael Perez!" at the 1:00 mark. For those not in the know Denzel's character in Training Day is based on Raphael Perez, and it is known that Perez was friendly with David Mack and Amir Muhammad



edit: i fully admit im biased because Q is my favorite artist but people sleep on his gangsta
 
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Youre mad, how did pac influence Biggie?? I keep hearing pac stans say this but it isnt true.

pac is the one that came looking for Biggie, hes the one who was pushing for them to be friends, hes the one that was all over an unsigned rappers dikk that didnt know that this guy wanted from him, hes the one that was trying to get Big and his crew roles in Above the Rim..Biggie's music from his demos to Party and Bullshyt to RTD was pretty much the same hardcore Ny talk. Pac didnt influence, flow, lyrics or shyt. Big by all accounts didnt seem bothered or remotely interested in Pac, from the time they met to when Pac was mad Big had denied him the attention he wanted.
Everybody at the time was on Bigs dikk, including Pac. Infact Pac is the first true Stan.
I dont think Big cared for Pac cause he just didnt care for him as a rapper. Big was aware of his own strengths as an MC, and saw Pac as a successful but weaker Mc than himself. If youre Biggie with all that talent, you might respect the likes of Jay, Nas and Camron. He never respected Pacs skills and I think this is what tipped Pacs mental. Big never cared for dude and people blow up their friendship when it was non existant.
This nikka here. Talking loud. Saying nothing. :stopitslime:
 
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