Let’s say Mase Doesn’t retire, how much longer do you think his run would have lasted?

[Street Knowledge]

He had the #1 album in the country in 1999 with a throwaway in the middle of DMX,Jay, and Ja Rule had albums out

You guys keep confusing YOU being tired of Mase with everyone else being tired of Mase.

The coli used the same logic with Ja Rules run and tries to use it with Drake.

Drake is the biggest rapper. Mase wasn’t even top 3 in his city in 1999.

It’s not the same at all

 

[Street Knowledge]

Ok it’s 2001 in hip hop. Who is Mase bigger then?

Is he bigger than Jay? DMX? Ja Rule? Nas?

Again this is just NYC, I’m not even talking hip hop as a whole at the time. People like Luda, Nelly etc

 

[thekidfromqueens]

He'd still be relevant. A lot of 90s rappers still are. Joe, Jada, Busta.

Girls loved him and he could have done those flyboy raos or existed in a fab type lane.

 

[nieman]

It would've been on Bad Boy. If I'm not mistaken, he still owed the label another album. Welcome Back was a Bad Boy album.

He did, and Diddy was not letting him off easily...which is the whole Welcome Back fiasco. I think Puff would've shelved him. Puff hasn't stayed with an artist for too long. He doesn't seem to allow them to get stale. And Double Up was not well received at all. Who cares what it sold, that album was getting killed in music discussions.

So even if Mase hadn't left, the hits wouldn't have had the same punch. Fab was buzzing with his Mase-esque style, and a new artist. People would've preferred him over Mase. Ja Rule was taking the Mase formula and eating everything in his path.

 

[Ghostface Trillah]

Drake is the biggest rapper. Mase wasn’t even top 3 in his city in 1999.

It’s not the same at all

You can come on the coli any time of the day and see a drake fell off with this one posts. We're not talking about actual status. We're talking about how people get on here and say nonsense like "this rapper fell off/his run is over/he was never was popping like that" trying to revise history.

Mase spent 98 floating off R&B songs and touring. There were other hot rappers but you guys are trying to say Mase who was multiplatinum was done because DMX and Jay-Z, two dudes he already rhymed with were getting hot. Simply not true.

 

[Ghostface Trillah]

He'd still be relevant. A lot of 90s rappers still are. Joe, Jada, Busta.

Girls loved him and he could have done those flyboy raos or existed in a fab type lane.

"In a fab type lane"

That was literally Mase's whole lane. Fab openly admitted to going for it because Mase left.

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

This is a cop out

If I asked you would Mase be bigger than Eminem Z in 2001 if he was still active you would be like hell no. There would be none of this “well I don’t know and none of us do” stuff

Oh ok

 

[Street Knowledge]

You can come on the coli any time of the day and see a drake fell off with this one posts. We're not talking about actual status. We're talking about how people get on here and say nonsense like "this rapper fell off/his run is over/he was never was popping like that" trying to revise history.

Mase spent 98 floating off R&B songs and touring. There were other hot rappers but you guys are trying to say Mase who was multiplatinum was done because DMX and Jay-Z, two dudes he already rhymed with were getting hot. Simply not true.

Drake was never surpassed by anyone in his Canada like Mase was in NYC. Yeah we are talking about actual status he wasn’t top 3 In his own city by 1999 but people are shocked at the idea that he would be just another guy in 2002. We aren’t saying he couldn’t have an occasional hit or gold plaque.

For example Fat Joe had the number 2 song in America in 01(bigger than Mase ever had)and scored a platinum plaque for the J.O.S.E, he wasn’t on DMX level though. That’s the point, he was just in that next tier.

 

[JustCKing]

He did, and Diddy was not letting him off easily...which is the whole Welcome Back fiasco. I think Puff would've shelved him. Puff hasn't stayed with an artist for too long. He doesn't seem to allow them to get stale. And Double Up was not well received at all. Who cares what it sold, that album was getting killed in music discussions.

So even if Mase hadn't left, the hits wouldn't have had the same punch. Fab was buzzing with his Mase-esque style, and a new artist. People would've preferred him over Mase. Ja Rule was taking the Mase formula and eating everything in his path.

Puff came back in 2000/2001 though and I think a Mase would've been needed. Just think, Bad Boy was putting up numbers with a harder, street sound in Black Rob and Shyne. I definitely could see Mase all over Saga Continues especially featured on "Bad Boy For Life" and maybe even "Let's Get It". Then there's "I Need A Girl", which wouldn't have needed Loon if Mase was around. Then he possibly would've been on the remix. Puff drops a new Mase album in 2002 and I definitely think it would've been in the top 3-5 biggest releases of 2002 alongside Nellyville, Eminem Show, and God's Son.

 

[beenz]

probably a couple more years. has anyone on bad boy ever had a long career tho?

 

[C-Styles]

probably a couple more years. has anyone on bad boy ever had a long career tho?

yeah ironically French Montana, Heeehh!!

 

[Ghostface Trillah]

Drake was never surpassed by anyone in his Canada like Mase was in NYC. Yeah we are talking about actual status he wasn’t top 3 In his own city by 1999 but people are shocked at the idea that he would be just another guy in 2002. We aren’t saying he couldn’t have an occasional hit or gold plaque.

For example Fat Joe had the number 2 song in America in 01(bigger than Mase ever had)and scored a platinum plaque for the J.O.S.E, he wasn’t on DMX level though. That’s the point, he was just in that next tier.

With Big dying Mase was the number one rapper on the number one label in NYC. You guys are trying to say that he wasn't hot in 99 when his throwaway album went gold with no promotion. He was coming off of tour for dominating 97 and 98. That's like saying an NFL team that got a 1st round bye in the playoffs wasn't hot in the 1st round.

 

[beenz]

yeah ironically French Montana, Heeehh!!

he's still on bad boy?

and ironically he's talentless. he's the dj khaled of rappers. no memorable songs or verses, yet knows all the right people.

 

[C-Styles]

he's still on bad boy?

and ironically he's talentless. he's the dj khaled of rappers. no memorable songs or verses, yet knows all the right people.

i think the last album he dropped was his last on bad boy, fulfilling his contract. So there you have it, the only artist to fulfill his whole Bad Boy contract

 

[Shadow King]

4x Platinum to Gold from album 1 to album 2 is a big drop. He probably gets another gold album due to his and Bad Boy's name but he wouldn't have a long run of relevance.