Let’s keep it real on Tua

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Ive never seen a QB get crowned so quickly and the other QB in the draft be left for dead so quickly. This is ridiculous. What would Herbert be doing in Miami with the OLine struggles the team has had? What would Miami’s current record be? What would Miami’s record be last year? Media slobbers this guy, but denigrates anything Tua does. Even in a win.

the Chargers had the worst offensive line last year
 

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Also has great weapons. Hebert is a beast but no one talks about the talent around him. Tua simply doesn’t have that. Hebert still the better QB but would give Tua more time.
There’s one elite talent in Keenan. He had a bottom 3 coaching staff(who all got fired) worst offensive line in football and a historically bad special teams
 

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There’s one elite talent in Keenan. He had a bottom 3 coaching staff(who all got fired) worst offensive line in football and a historically bad special teams

Mike Williams would be a #1 in Miami. The talent level isn’t close. Austin eke led a dynamic back. The TEs are a wash.

we tryna say Chan Gaily is a good OC without fitz?

give tua some time and better people around him to fully evaluate him.
 
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Last season basically doesn't count, as Tua wasn't healthy at all and got thrown in before he was physically and mentally ready to play. Making matters worse, he had an offensive coordinator in Chan Gailey whose offense was tailor-made for Fitz, who he had coached previously.

As a Fins fan, the jury is still out on Tua. He has this season to prove he's either the guy or if he struggles, we go a different direction and possibly pursue Watson. It's frustrating because with even an average o-line, I think we win 12-13 games. Chris Grier has done a terrible job in rebuilding that line, it's been a bottom 5 unit since 2017. We spent picks on Austin Jackson, Robert Hunt, Dieter, Kindley, and Eichenberg in the last few drafts and the only guy that looks to be a long term starter is Hunt. While the o-line sucks, Tua doesn't do himself any favors by trying to do too much and bailing from the pocket when his first read isn't open- which often leads to him making poor decisions instead of just throwing the ball away.

With all that being said, if our WR group stays healthy, I think he has a good year. Particularly with this scheme that is supposed to compliment the things he does well.
 

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No way can you watch herbert and Tua play and think the 2 are close in talent
Mike Williams would be a #1 in Miami. The talent level isn’t close. Austin eke led a dynamic back. The TEs are a wash.

we tryna say Chan Gaily is a good OC without fitz?

give tua some time and better people around him to fully evaluate him.
Mike Williams better than devante Parker now? At best it’s even
 

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No way can you watch herbert and Tua play and think the 2 are close in talent

Mike Williams better than devante Parker now? At best it’s even

live already said Herbert is better, but to act like he hasn’t had a good supporting cast is ridiculous. Mike Williams is their number 2 receiver and he’s equal or better than Parker and folk tryna tell me the talent around both qbs is consistent.
 

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live already said Herbert is better, but to act like he hasn’t had a good supporting cast is ridiculous. Mike Williams is their number 2 receiver and he’s equal or better than Parker and folk tryna tell me the talent around both qbs is consistent.
The offense looked way better when Fitz was in, and it would probably look way better with Herbert. Tua is a top 5 pick and in 2021 these dudes are supposed to flash greatness. He hasn’t shown anything that suggests he’d be any better than like the 11th or 12th best QB in the league even at his height.

Maybe I could be wrong in the future, but right now I’m not
 

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Mike Williams would be a #1 in Miami. The talent level isn’t close. Austin eke led a dynamic back. The TEs are a wash.

we tryna say Chan Gaily is a good OC without fitz?

give tua some time and better people around him to fully evaluate him.

I forgot about fitz, he completely outplayed Tua in the same offense

another bad sign. That’s how a lot of bucs fans knew Jameis was trash.
 

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"Tank for Tua" was the mantra across football for an entire year
He's been mid as fukk at best since being in the league. With that dynamic people are going tend to focus on his negatives. He basically was supposed to be a franchise changing type QB for Miami and right now it's looking like he might actually be a detriment to the team reaching it's full potential. It's early in his career but in the current NFL no one gives a fukk about giving dudes 3-4 yrs to reach full potential, you need to show signs early
:mjlol: the current NFL is stupid as fukk. He’s not putting up goat numbers after hip surgery and after having one of the weakest core of talent around him in the league. How you gonna show and prove if they won’t even give you the opportunity to show and prove? What was he supposed to do in a Chan Gailey offense? People are weird man.
 
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