Dreamzeedream
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That's change's history. How would that affect the ovw bog four(Cena,rko,batista,brock). Would become the big movie star he is today?., does SCSA ever become the biggest thing since hogan?. What if rock and Austin went to WCW
Lets imagine that Hall and Nash never left WWF
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AKM-95
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No Scott Hall to put the bug in his ear no Crow Sting
It was definetly time to evolve from the surfer in 1996 but who knows what direction they’d have gone with him.
They might have sent him to the WWE and actually went thru with the Stang gimmick in WCW and I’d be in here cursing people out 20 years after the fact
Breh WCWs big sting angle would probably been Sting rocking a bussiness suit and rejoining the horsemen only to get turned on in a couple months
As for WWF there's no doubt in my mind That the kliq would of pushed Bret out though maybe the Harts replace the NWO as WCWs hostile takeover storyline.
If hall doesnt leave and wcw doesnt put the pressure on mcmahon would he have even bothered switching shyt up? He could easily stifle russo and his ideas and probably wouldnt have been as open to change
WCW was already beating the WWF in the ratings before razor & diesel jumped.
they were already teasing a Hogan turn as well. and the NWO idea came from new japan. Hogan being the mystery partner for hall & nash was the biggest splash of the entire NWO run.
NWO was gonna take off regardless. it wouldn't be the cultural phenomenon that it became if hall/nash/syxx didn't come thru with that sauce, but it would still be legendary in wrestling.
yea
before the NWO sky-rocketed, word was that Rupert Murdoch was looking into starting a promotion.
with that said tho, ECW would still be in the same space, with FOX being another big bag company signing up wrestlers.
before the NWO sky-rocketed, word was that Rupert Murdoch was looking into starting a promotion.
with that said tho, ECW would still be in the same space, with FOX being another big bag company signing up wrestlers.
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Probably no Austin as we know him
Riley Escobar
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No Scott Hall to put the bug in his ear no Crow Sting
It was definetly time to evolve from the surfer in 1996 but who knows what direction they’d have gone with him.
They might have sent him to the WWE and actually went thru with the Stang gimmick in WCW and I’d be in here cursing people out 20 years after the fact
That long awaited Stink gimmick
prophecypro
Hollywood North
I think WCW might have hit it big later with Goldberg,maybe. Depends on if they hold on
Maybe Bret has an easier and better push assuming he leaves in 97 (Hell maybe he leaves in 96 if Hall and Nash stay)
Rock and Austin and how they would be pushed would be interesting but I also dont know how much sway under vince the clique would have in stopping them unless Bret was still around to advocate for them
Maybe Bret has an easier and better push assuming he leaves in 97 (Hell maybe he leaves in 96 if Hall and Nash stay)
Rock and Austin and how they would be pushed would be interesting but I also dont know how much sway under vince the clique would have in stopping them unless Bret was still around to advocate for them
these are revisionist narratives.
WCW had already hit it big.
WWF were the ones who were "depends on if they hold on" status in '96.
RhymesWell
All Star
Hogan is screwed if they don't jump because them standing next to him in the NWO is what made him cool again. He would never turn heel without them showing up and would've been WASHED. The WWF probably would've bought WCW a whole two years earlier maybe.
Jmare007
pico pal q lee
I think Rock hits big anyway. It probably takes him 2 more years to get the chance to stand out, but WWF always wanted him to be a star.
Austin is a different case. Who knows if he ever gets to take the Stone Cold gimmick to the hights he did in 96'-99'. And who knows if it ever catches fire if he did it a couple of years later in ECW, WCW or another promotion
Austin is a different case. Who knows if he ever gets to take the Stone Cold gimmick to the hights he did in 96'-99'. And who knows if it ever catches fire if he did it a couple of years later in ECW, WCW or another promotion
RhymesWell
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The WCW crowd was rejecting Hogan by this point heavy but you really think Eric convinces him to turn without the big buzz Nash & Hall were bringing to the table? Why? To feud with Surfer Sting?
prophecypro
Hollywood North
Yeah but we're talking about if Nash and Hall dont come
You're right in the sense that WCW was doing okay by their standards first couple of years Hogan was there (Increased PPV buys) but the business overall was still kinda down and if that NWO thing dont pop off in 96 thats what I mean by depends on how long they hold on until Golberg comes.
prophecypro
Hollywood North
Feel like its kind of a chicken and egg argument
Hall and Nash brought the swag and style for sure, but I dont think the NWO gets a tenth of the mainstream buzz and masses turning in its not for Hulk Hogan becoming a bad guy and the biggest name going heel and that curiosity factor and that probably was gonna make him cool in some eyes
But I agree he;d be outdated quicker if they didnt turn heel
The WCW crowd was rejecting Hogan by this point heavy but you really think Eric convinces him to turn without the big buzz Nash & Hall were bringing to the table? Why? To feud with Surfer Sting?
don't play yourself with the smilies bro. we not doing that.
you said the wwf woudve bought wcw a couple years earlier. how is that even possible when WCW had the upper-hand and the WWF were the ones closing in on going under. plus the wwf didn't REALLY buy wcw in the manner that they claim anyway.
as for the NWO thing, they were already teasing a Hogan heel turn before this. and lets no exaggerate nash & hall's buzz. if their chit was that great, then WWF would've been winning when they were over there. it was moreso the storyline, rather than the buzz.
how was their business down? who was doing better business?
they didn't NEED the NWO. they were already winning. the NWO put them over the top, but it didn't put them on top.
how long they hold on? yall be acting like WCW was TNA status on here. the WWF were the ones treading towards crisis mode. not WCW.
WWF got a shot in the arm, courtesy of the warrior coming back, but he only stayed a few months.
I think Rock hits big anyway. It probably takes him 2 more years to get the chance to stand out, but WWF always wanted him to be a star.
Austin is a different case. Who knows if he ever gets to take the Stone Cold gimmick to the hights he did in 96'-99'. And who knows if it ever catches fire if he did it a couple of years later in ECW, WCW or another promotion
he already picked up most of his gimmick in ECW, and the WWF didn't want to keep it going. then when they let him do it, he went full-on and copied a lot from the sandman - which he wouldn't be able to do in ECW. and his name was already dead on the WCW streets.
he'd either be back to his superstar steve Austin schtick in ECW without the sandman biting, or maybe that FOX promotion really is a thing and he could go there. that's the only way I see the stone cold thing not falling thru the cracks. a rumored promotion.
with that said, this thread is nice.yea, they had plans for the rock, but that's if the WWF holds on, as they say. plus, the kliq had vince by the balls.
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RhymesWell
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don't play yourself with the smilies bro. we not doing that.
you said the wwf woudve bought wcw a couple years earlier. how is that even possible when WCW had the upper-hand and the WWF were the ones closing in on going under. plus the wwf didn't REALLY buy wcw in the manner that they claim anyway.
as for the NWO thing, they were already teasing a Hogan heel turn before this. and lets no exaggerate nash & hall's buzz. if their chit was that great, then WWF would've been winning when they were over there. it was moreso the storyline, rather than the buzz.
how was their business down? who was doing better business?
they didn't NEED the NWO. they were already winning. the NWO put them over the top, but it didn't put them on top.
how long they hold on? yall be acting like WCW was TNA status on here. the WWF were the ones treading towards crisis mode. not WCW.
WWF got a shot in the arm, courtesy of the warrior coming back, but he only stayed a few months.
he already picked up most of his gimmick in ECW, and the WWF didn't want to keep it going. then when they let him do it, he went full-on and copied a lot from the sandman - which he wouldn't be able to do in ECW. and his name was already dead on the WCW streets.
he'd either be back to his superstar steve Austin schtick in ECW without the sandman biting, or maybe that FOX promotion really is a thing and he could go there. that's the only way I see the stone cold thing not falling thru the cracks. a rumored promotion.
yea, they had plans for the rock, but that's if the WWF holds on, as they say. plus, the kliq had vince by the balls.
Hogan heeling without a cool factor bump from recent WWF guys jumping shift means nothing for WCW in the long run. Yes they were up on the WWF but I honestly think if Hall & Nash stick around, the Kliq influence grows even larger on Vince and some form of the Attitude era is brought out. The only difference is I think the Kliq stops Austin and Rock's shine for sure. Maybe they jump to WCW but they'd be in for similar trouble with Hogan in WCW.