Lets imagine that Hall and Nash never left WWF

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

How would WCW and WWF proceed from where they were at that point?

I think Hall wouldnt be as big of a fukkup and gets the main belt for a while as Razor

nWo and DX never happen in their iterations obviously but hbk, hhh, nash and hall do probably form a kliq stable in wwf that runs things for a while

Bret probably leaves for wcw and has a better run there than what he did

Add on

 

[puppetmaster]

No Scott Hall to put the bug in his ear no Crow Sting

It was definetly time to evolve from the surfer in 1996 but who knows what direction they’d have gone with him.

They might have sent him to the WWE and actually went thru with the Stang gimmick in WCW and I’d be in here cursing people out 20 years after the fact

 

[Da King]

Just shows how the Kliq are the most influential play fighters in history

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

No Scott Hall to put the bug in his ear no Crow Sting

It was definetly time to evolve from the surfer in 1996 but who knows what direction they’d have gone with him.

They might have sent him to the WWE and actually went thru with the Stang gimmick in WCW and I’d be in here cursing people out 20 years after the fact

Would there be an attitude era at all?

 

[Da King]

Would there be an attitude era at all?

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

If hall doesnt leave and wcw doesnt put the pressure on mcmahon would he have even bothered switching shyt up? He could easily stifle russo and his ideas and probably wouldnt have been as open to change

 

[Toe Jay Simpson]

Out of business by 1999

No way the full kliq allows Austin and Rock’s pushes to take off

 

[Da King]

If hall doesnt leave and wcw doesnt put the pressure on mcmahon would he have even bothered switching shyt up? He could easily stifle russo and his ideas and probably wouldnt have been as open to change

the fact that HBGOAT, who had Vince McMahon in his pocket, had great respect for GOATsso proves that wouldn't have happened and HBGOAT credits GOATsso for being the creative leader and reason for the shift in the WWWF. HBGOAT was the leader of the Kliq

 

[Reality Check]

A side effect of this "what it" would be ECW being more popular or there being another federation being launched. Reason being one company you'd have to be Kliq approved to get a push and the other company you'd have to be Hogan/Flair approved to get a push. Believe there would be a lot of talent who would look for alternatives that could actually get them somewhere.

 

[Da King]

A side effect of this "what it" would be ECW being more popular or there being another federation being launched. Reason being one company you'd have to be Kliq approved to get a push and the other company you'd have to be Hogan/Flair approved to get a push. Believe there would be a lot of talent who would look for alternatives that could actually get them somewhere.

The same ECW that couldn’t ever draw for shyt?

 

[Reality Check]

The same ECW that couldn’t ever draw for shyt?

Given how big of a what if this scenario is, who knows what the ECW in this alternate universe would have drawn if Hall & Nash never left WWF. By the way, Attitude Era would not have been born; your God Russo said himself a couple weeks ago on his podcast that his inspiration for the attitude era came from the nWo formation. I'd also venture to guess if Hall & Nash don't leave, Russo doesn't get promoted to the Creative team from Magazine writer in late 1996.

 

[julesocean]

1) Before the invasion angle, WCW had just as shytty programming, and Nitro and Raw were practically the same, ratings wise.

2) a) Had Hall and Nash never defected, there would be no nWo storyline, so what would have Eric come up with?
2) b) It is clear by how they handled that storyline, that Bischoff had still intended to "get with the times" in terms of late 90s being edgy.

3) a) Russo also saw this, and was the main factor in pushing McMahon and becoming head writer, to present a more modern product. This was his agenda before Nash and Hall defected, after they defected and WCW started their edgy programming, and when he was promoted to head writer in 97 and pushed the edginess even further than WCW had been doing.
3) b) Russo was probably more in tune with this "Attitude" fans wanted, than Bischoff, so storylines and character development would still most likely land on WWF's side, playing out like it did in history.

Without Hall and Nash leaving WWF, it just bolsters their roster, and you certainly never get the big ratings swoop for Nitro in 96/97. It would have only meant a quicker end for WCW imo.

 

[MrFirst2doit]

I honestly don't think much would of changed....Bischoff got the idea from having another company "invade" WCW attending a NJPW show around the same time, so as far as we know that idea was independent of Hall/Nash, they sort of were right place/right time beneficiaries....

What would of likely happened is they would of still had Hogan turn heel probably a year or so later and but it would have to be ex-WWF guys or two never before seen guys if we are to believe Bischoff got the idea from NJPW. At the time, WCW was purging a lot of ECW guys and guys from Mexico...so the NWO would probably of been a mix of "outsiders" being a rag tag mix of lucha guys, ECW guys, and ex WWF guys like Rick Rude

I can also see them delaying the NJPW-inspired invasion angle a year or so and doing it with Bret or some other WWF guys independent of Hogan.

The NWO definitely wouldn't of had the swag or impact they had though that's for sure, that's directly related to Hall/Nash.....

WWF would of continued to suck though , no NWO, there would be no russo, no attitude era

 

[jackswstd]

If Hall & Nash wouldn’t have jumped they would’ve went after others. Somebody was gonna take that guaranteed money and lighter schedule. The only mystery is who.

 

[dbp]

shyt would've been really different, and not for the better.

Bischoff might have gone with the NWO and used someone else, but it was Hall and Nash who made it feel cool. It would've ended up being some lame corny shyt without them.

Had they stayed in WWE..... eh, Vince would not have had the same pressure to go in an aggressive direction. I'm sure Stone Cold and Rock would've hit big regardless, but I think 96-97 would've bee much crappier overall without the outsiders in the NWO.