Let's Do Our Job As Hip-Hop fans to never let this become the new normal

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He needs to fire those nikkas :camby:

nikka is still rhymin "Snoop D-O-Double G from the LBC sipping chronic and tonic"

its 2015:mindblown:
:russ:

I just laughed at this. I imagine snoop callin his ghostwriters to the studio, talkin bout "yall keep writin the same ol bullshyt i was rappin in 93. Im sorry cuz, but yall nikkaz is fired"
 

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Got this excerpt from a Fader article.



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This is the problem. Drake could be the setup for something much worse. Pushing this "it's like pop, he should have a group of writers" agenda will only set up the fall of hip,hop as we know it. Before you know it, talentless hacks will invade the genre with million of dollars behind them and groups of writers to help their cause. This is one of the most corporate things that could happen to hip hop, and of all then nitty things that have already happened. This will be the absolute worst. This being accepted and appreciated as actual art. Lifeless Vessels running around making Music they don't own. Stories that aren't theirs.

We must continue to shame this shyt. No matter what. It isn't right.
We should start by not buying kanye's albums nikka be having 20 ghostwriters Talm bout "I'm the greatest"

Honestly this is all kanye's fault
 

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Yeah I feel like this could really be the nail in the coffin for hiphop if nikkas don't step up and support really lyricist. :mjcry:

That new power is def on drakes side. All these media outlets are trying their hardest to keep public opinion in check.
Kanye started this trend :mjpls:
 

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We should start by not buying kanye's albums nikka be having 20 ghostwriters Talm bout "I'm the greatest"

Honestly this is all kanye's fault
I'm okay with the Kanye blame. I agree actually

Drake is only worst because he actually had legitimate respect as an mc
 

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Nah. I just listen to the music. The industry is too corrupt for me to put my heart and soul into these individuals. I'm pretty sure Drake writes most of his shyt and does writing for others but some of his newer stuff it's obvious this hasn't been all Drake. It's still good music but this isn't "I'm a famous simp woe is me" Drake, this is "Banging out da bando" Drake. Influences will be had. I patiently await the next Drake (and friends) classic.

How can u be sure drake writes most of his shyt? Im not even sure u heard the 10 bands

Sprite dirty like diana never clean, my ex ask me where im movin i saidnon to better things

He stole all those lines fam... He had us believe those were his. If its not a big deal id like to hear all the refetences
 

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How can u be sure drake writes most of his shyt? Im not even sure u heard the 10 bands

Sprite dirty like diana never clean, my ex ask me where im movin i saidnon to better things

He stole all those lines fam... He had us believe those were his. If its not a big deal id like to hear all the refetences

When there's blood in the water the sharks will feed. If he wasn't writing the majority of his shyt we'd definitely have more than the 10 Bands reference track. No one is dropping a reference track to one of his hits yet?
 

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When there's blood in the water the sharks will feed. If he wasn't writing the majority of his shyt we'd definitely have more than the 10 Bands reference track. No one is dropping a reference track to one of his hits yet?

10 bands was one of his hits breh... It was on billboard top 15

But i feel like... If hes capable of ripping off 10 bands in this manner... In what manner did he rip off the other qm reference tracks? Meek said he heard the Rico reference verse breh. Im certain more references will come out.
 

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Nas is my GOAT but he's been part of a pop writing pool for years
 

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At the same time, it opens a door for real artists to grow and get their music out. It's our job to find and support what we WANT to see.

I'm loving the Toronto Hip-hop sound right now. Though I haven't found anyone lyrically exciting but that's a matter of time with beats like this.
 

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Ghost writing in hip-hop is lame and unacceptable for most artists. Dr. Dre, Puff, and Kanye are all famous for using them, but they're all producers first. Kanye is more of a borderline case, because I can see why people would perceive him as a rapper at the point more than a producer.

Dr. Dre was basically a performer. Puff too. So no one was really looking at them like writers. When Dre did 2001, it was an event, and everyone understood that Dre got help. I don't even know if I can put into words why that feels acceptable, but it does.

If you're a rapper first, and rhyming/emceeing is your thing, like Drake is known for, it's not the same as Dre or Puffy using ghostwriters. Drake also (love him or hate him) is one of the last mega stars in hip-hop that is known for being able to rhyme really well. When something like this comes out, it cheapens things.

Hip-hop is one of the only art forms where it's of such importance to the listener that your words are your own, and accurately reflecting your experiences. I don't know. The thing is that Drake is good enough to not even need ghost writers. Just use your own pen. He's a pop star but he's still a rapper first.
 

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i have no issues with Snoop having help/writers with songs as well.. its part of the business.. hell.. even recently- Everlast wrote a good bit of The Blue Carpet Treatment, and no one said a damn thing..

realistically, it comes down to folks hate Drake.. which is fine.. but, you cant use logical fallacies when it comes to a rapper/artist you respect/like, and find out they also have writers as well..
False. People aren't just "hating on Drake" just for the sake of it.

What's become the new issue is that now y'all are trying to insinuate that Everyone does it all of the time and that's simply not the case
 
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