Lets Discuss What went wrong with Bernie Sanders' campaign ?

Piff Perkins

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Yeah, I said they agreed to a deal not that they followed thru and it is better than not having one which what was the norm before Trump. Thus him being good on N. Korea. Do you think it is bad to negotiate some type of accord with N. Korea despite the chance there will be a photo ops or nah?

Again, you do no research but pop in here to tell us how great Trump did things compared to others. You know...like a Trump troll/supporter.

Multiple administrations have had treaties and agreements with NK. US/NK relations normalized under Bush for quite awhile, including the US lifting some sanctions in response to good behavior and the agreement to some treaties. This was broken (surprise!) by NK acting a fool (arresting US journalists). Relations worsened throughout Obama's presidency, including NK sinking a SK ship and testing various missiles. Lots of sanctions resulted over the years.
 

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Again, you do no research but pop in here to tell us how great Trump did things compared to others. You know...like a Trump troll/supporter.

Multiple administrations have had treaties and agreements with NK. US/NK relations normalized under Bush for quite awhile, including the US lifting some sanctions in response to good behavior and the agreement to some treaties. This was broken (surprise!) by NK acting a fool (arresting US journalists). Relations worsened throughout Obama's presidency, including NK sinking a SK ship and testing various missiles. Lots of sanctions resulted over the years.
I'm telling you what Kyle is talking about. You just said the prior administration had no agreement now there is one. That's better no?
 

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I'm telling you what Kyle is talking just about. You just said the prior administration had no agreement now there is one. That's better no?

You keep framing the argument in terms of things being better now due to Trump, which is NOT true. NK is an unreliable negotiation partner and there likely won't be potential peace until Kim is deposed. I didn't say prior administrations didn't have agreements. I literally said "multiple administrations have had treaties and agreements with NK." None of them worked. Trump's isn't working either, and you could argue NK is acting more belligerent now. Yet you want to give him praise for nothing. Why, exactly? I know why.

In terms of Medicare, you claimed "And Trump didn't basically extend Medicare to Corona virus victims?" TESTS are being paid at Medicare rates, to hospitals. That is literally it. The NPR article you mentioned even outlines the lack of information from the administration on this. In the meantime hospitals are still charging copays, deductibles, and hospital stay charges. It's a mess. I wouldn't even blame that on Trump since he inherited our healthcare system...but when he lies about copays being waived he makes things worse for people. Just like with NK, all he cares about is the headline.
 

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You keep framing the argument in terms of things being better now due to Trump, which is NOT true. NK is an unreliable negotiation partner and there likely won't be potential peace until Kim is deposed. I didn't say prior administrations didn't have agreements. I literally said "multiple administrations have had treaties and agreements with NK." None of them worked. Trump's isn't working either, and you could argue NK is acting more belligerent now. Yet you want to give him praise for nothing. Why, exactly? I know why.

In terms of Medicare, you claimed "And Trump didn't basically extend Medicare to Corona virus victims?" TESTS are being paid at Medicare rates, to hospitals. That is literally it. The NPR article you mentioned even outlines the lack of information from the administration on this. In the meantime hospitals are still charging copays, deductibles, and hospital stay charges. It's a mess. I wouldn't even blame that on Trump since he inherited our healthcare system...but when he lies about copays being waived he makes things worse for people. Just like with NK, all he cares about is the headline.
You said it was broken and relations worsened under the previous administration (Obama) look back. Now there is an agreement, that's better. That's what Kyle Kulinski is talking about.
The article I posted is strictly about uninsured people so all the shyt you are talking about co-pays and deductibles doesn't apply. The article says:
"Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar said health care providers will be reimbursed for COVID-19 care "at Medicare rates," and they will be forbidden from billing patients for services directly on top of that."
WTF you are talking about insured people, I'm not.
 

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Bernie’s platform is too far left, he had inexperienced young ppl running his campaign/surrogates, and he doesn’t know how to build alliances n coalitions. The nail in the coffin was depending too much on young voters, who historically have been shown NOT to show up at the poles. I remember ppl on here was talkin bout “He’s drawing BIG crowds!” Well that’s nice, but are those big crowds of young ppl going to the poles to vote?
 

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