Na. Statement still stands. Bernie still losing. Biden on TV all day sounding and looking presidential.
By the way, this shyt must of cut you deep for you to be going back days to quote me.
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Na. Statement still stands. Bernie still losing. Biden on TV all day sounding and looking presidential.
By the way, this shyt must of cut you deep for you to be going back days to quote me.
A Trump fan complaining about a candidate not supporting reparations.
Probably one of the most mind-boggling positions I've ever seen in the Coli, and he's far from the only one who's says this.
We're definitely in the worse alternate timeline, but at least it's never dull.
WOW.
Warren didn't endorse Bernie because his sorry ass team waited until the WEEK OF for a collaboration! AND SANDERS TEAM IGNORED HER PREVIOUS ATTEMPTS!
WOW
Last weekend, a few days after Elizabeth Warren dropped out, Shakir and one of his deputy campaign managers, Ari Rabin-Havt, started contacting her top staffers and supporters to see what could be done to bring together the two camps before the primaries on Tuesday.
Sanders spoke to Warren a “handful” of times throughout the week, a campaign aide confirmed, but she has declined to offer her endorsement.
Several leading figures in Warren’s circle balked at the outreach effort — Sanders and his aides, they said, had months to lay the groundwork for that kind of partnership, but only did so this week from a position of desperation. About a month ago, when it was clear that Warren had little chance to win, one such person said they put out feelers to Sanders’ operation in an attempt to start a running conversation. They showed little interest, the person said, in reciprocating.
Others questioned whether Sanders could have prevented such a swift consolidation of the field had he reached out to candidates like Buttigieg and Klobuchar in a more concerted way.
“That's the Sanders model — they were gonna do it themselves,” said Adam Jentleson, a Democratic strategist who supported Warren. “His challenge from day one was to reach out to people who weren't with him in 2016 and build a bridge to the rest of the party.”
“I would feel differently about it if the other half of the equation was present for them: a wave of new voters and unprecedented youth turnout,” Jentleson added. “But it’s not there.”
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Krystal Ball is the problem:
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Na. Statement still stands. Bernie still losing. Biden on TV all day sounding and looking presidential.
By the way, this shyt must of cut you deep for you to be going back days to quote me.
Over a trillion dollars thrown into the market today for nothing. Sounds like the “free shyt” you spoke against. With trillions more to come. You’re so immersed in “haha you lost!” That you forgot to type something smart. It’s alright, you don’t know any better.
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but...but how are we going to pay for it all. Easy, a dummy at the fed created a trillion out of thin air to protect the billionaires. Trickle down they said. How about trickle up, give 10k to stay at home for 3 months to everyone. But..but.. I'll lose my $15/hr insurance job...i need to please my billionaire zaddy...i need to go to work so i could get the coronavirus and pay zaddy another 300k in hospital bills on top of their bailouts.
There is a big difference between momentary stimulus which the government actually makes money off of (see the 2008-11 bailouts and the 1980 S&L bailouts) and annual trillion dollar entitlements.
U.S. ends TARP with $15.3 billion profit
And for the record, I’m not against the entitlements for expanding healthcare, education, UBI, etc. I just think the current crop of progressives, specifically Bernie, have done a terrible job of explaining how they’ll pay for it. That is a critical component. That’s what I mean when I say people don’t believe the free shyt for everyone talk. That’s basically how its currently being pitched. That pitch to me (and I think the vote reveals to most voters) is dumb.
Furthermore, political shifts in America happen via incremental change. Us black folk who vote understand that. Raging progressives online don’t seem to.
I think another thing is Bernie is a Jewish possible-atheist. This is still a predominately Christian country. I doubt America will ever elect a non-Christian president, America is Jesus' favored country. 
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Just checking in now that the fat lady is in the back warning up her vocal chords...
Its amazing how many "enlightened" HL posters are saying the same exact things I've been saying forever in regards to his campaign but I was called everything but a child of God for pointing out the obvious.
But to reiterate, Biden is the punt on fourth and long. Nobody likes punts, going for it is usually more exciting, but fukking it up will put your defense in a bad position.
Coronavirus is the only thing that can beat trump right now and November is still a long ways away. If the economy doesn't completely collapse, Trump will get another 4 but at least Biden will give the appearance of normalism to independents and moderates. You keep the blue states blue, you dont lose ground in the house and Senate by making every single race a referendum on socialism vs capitalism, and you're at least able to mount some type of defense against trump for those 4 years while you gameplan and come up with something better for 2024.
Nominating Bernie would have lead to an ass whipping at the polls. Remember when Democrat lawmakers in florida had to issue statements that they did not endorse or support socialism after the first round of debates? With Bernie as the visible "head" of the Democratic party, every Dem politician in America not in New York, Oregon, washington state, or California would have that hanging over their heads. Would probably lead to a Republican super majority, which would leave Dems virtually powerless for at least half the second term.
It was a call that had to be made. Pissing off the 13% of youth voters who actually cared enough to pause Hulu and get out and vote in the primaries was acceptable collateral damage
Its amazing how many "enlightened" HL posters are saying the same exact things I've been saying forever in regards to his campaign but I was called everything but a child of God for pointing out the obvious.
But to reiterate, Biden is the punt on fourth and long. Nobody likes punts, going for it is usually more exciting, but fukking it up will put your defense in a bad position.
Coronavirus is the only thing that can beat trump right now and November is still a long ways away. If the economy doesn't completely collapse, Trump will get another 4 but at least Biden will give the appearance of normalism to independents and moderates. You keep the blue states blue, you dont lose ground in the house and Senate by making every single race a referendum on socialism vs capitalism, and you're at least able to mount some type of defense against trump for those 4 years while you gameplan and come up with something better for 2024.
Nominating Bernie would have lead to an ass whipping at the polls. Remember when Democrat lawmakers in florida had to issue statements that they did not endorse or support socialism after the first round of debates? With Bernie as the visible "head" of the Democratic party, every Dem politician in America not in New York, Oregon, washington state, or California would have that hanging over their heads. Would probably lead to a Republican super majority, which would leave Dems virtually powerless for at least half the second term.
It was a call that had to be made. Pissing off the 13% of youth voters who actually cared enough to pause Hulu and get out and vote in the primaries was acceptable collateral damage
I thought the youth vote would turnout for Bernie like they did for Obama
. To be honest, I think Obama was a once in a lifetime phenomenon. I'm not sure if there's anyone who can turnout people of color and the youth the way Obama did. Democrats are in a dire situation because they're not going to be able to replicate Obama. Their only hope is if the economy falters which will spook enough old people to go with Biden.
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I thought the youth vote would turnout for Bernie like they did for Obama
Obama was like if you made a politician in a lab.
Former model...
Ivy league grad...
Eloquent...
And this being the 21st century, he was black but not "too black" which satisfied both black people and older whites...
And he was coming off the disastrous Bush Jr presidency which saw many young people send their friends and loved ones to the middle east to risk their lives over a war fueled by outright lies.
You're absolutely right it was a perfect storm.
They tried to replicate the Obama effect with Mayor Pete
Clean cut handsome young white guy...
Ivy league educated...
Eloquent...
This being the 21st century, Gay but not too gay
But there was no disaster of the Trump presidency. And to be honest, Dems kinda shot their credibility by endlessly screaming about the dire consequences of a Trump Presidency that never materialized. They even tried to fabricate issues and failed multiple times.
If the Dems actually thought this race was winnable they would have diverted all the delegates and put the Spotlight on Mayor Pete like they did Obama. My guess is that they're saving him and will use the next 4 years to raise his profile.
Blame ANOTHER woman, brehs 
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Refused To Campaign More For Sanders
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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) turned down repeated requests from Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign to appear at events promoting the Vermont senator’s candidacy in recent weeks, according to three people familiar with the discussions.
After the Iowa caucuses, Sanders campaign manager Faiz Shakir asked Ocasio-Cortez to stump for Sanders in New Hampshire, according to the sources. The campaign prepared a model schedule to highlight the kind of popular support she would expect if she attended, one of the people familiar with the talks said.
Ocasio-Cortez resisted the entreaties until a few days before the primary on Feb. 12. She ultimately spoke the day before the election at a Sanders rally in Durham, New Hampshire, where the rock band The Strokes performed.
“It was like pulling teeth to get her to New Hampshire,” said a second person who knew about the discussions.
The absence of the popular progressive lawmaker on the trail in the weeks that followed was even more notable. In nearly a month that passed from Feb. 11 until March 8 ― two days before the Michigan primary ― Ocasio-Cortez declined multiple invitations from Sanders’ campaign to speak on his behalf in Nevada, South Carolina and the 14 states that voted on Super Tuesday, the three people told HuffPost.
During that period, Sanders rose and fell quickly, going from the uncontested front-runner after Nevada’s Feb. 22 contest to a heavy underdog after a blowout in South Carolina on Feb. 29 and Super Tuesday routs on March 3.
As an embattled Sanders prepared to mount an unsuccessful stand against former Vice President Joe Biden in Michigan on Tuesday, the campaign again turned to Ocasio-Cortez for help.
She agreed at the last minute to deliver a speech on Sunday at a get-out-the-vote rally on the University of Michigan campus in Ann Arbor. Sanders’ campaign issued a revised media advisory about the rally the night before, informing the press that Ocasio-Cortez would be present.
Neither the Sanders campaign nor the campaign office of Ocasio-Cortez denied that she had turned down requests for additional appearances.
Senator Sanders and our campaign will never forget that in one of the most difficult moments for us, Rep. Ocasio-Cortez gave us a boost with her strong endorsement. Faiz Shakir, Sanders campaign manager
Instead, in a statement to HuffPost on Thursday, Shakir praised Ocasio-Cortez for her work on Sanders’ behalf, singling out her mid-October endorsement of Sanders after his heart attack. (Sanders’ allies credit the endorsement for helping revive his campaign, while backers of Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who also courted Ocasio-Cortez’s blessing, lament the deflating effect it had on her fortunes.)
“Senator Sanders and our campaign will never forget that in one of the most difficult moments for us, Rep. Ocasio-Cortez gave us a boost with her strong endorsement,” Shakir said. “And she has remained a steady and consistent ally, supporter, surrogate and adviser to the senator ever since.”
In a follow-up exchange on Friday, the Sanders campaign affirmed that Ocasio-Cortez has been one of the most frequent campaign-trail surrogates for Sanders.
Ocasio-Cortez’s apparent decision to avoid stumping for Sanders stands out precisely because of her intense work on his behalf in the fall and early winter. Ocasio-Cortez spoke for Sanders at 15 major rallies, beginning with a late-October appearance in Queens that drew an estimated 26,000 people. She spoke at a number of smaller Sanders events as well.
Ocasio-Cortez’s help proved especially critical in January, when Sanders was stuck in Washington participating in the impeachment trial of President Donald Trump. Over the weekend of Jan. 24 to Jan. 26, Ocasio-Cortez headlined seven rallies for Sanders in Iowa and spoke at a canvass kickoff for his campaign.
Although the Sanders team would not say whether Ocasio-Cortez’s decision to avoid the trail reflected any dispute, Lauren Hitt, a spokeswoman for Ocasio-Cortez, denied that the congresswoman’s itinerary reflected tensions with the campaign.
“The plan was always that she would slow down her surrogate work in February, after Iowa, to focus on her re-elect and congressional duties,” Hitt said.
But the first source said a disagreement over Ocasio-Cortez’s remarks in Iowa seemed to cool her on helping with the campaign.
At a rally in Ames on Jan. 25, Ocasio-Cortez delivered a speech in which she failed to mention Sanders’ name ― an omission that Fox News noticed and highlighted. She also encouraged those in attendance to tip off people about the presence of immigration enforcement authorities in their communities to help undocumented immigrants evade detention.
As Vanity Fair first reported in February, Shakir apparently communicated to Ocasio-Cortez his dissatisfaction over her remarks about alerting the presence of immigration authorities. While Sanders has sought to scrap and restructure the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency in its current form, his campaign has been trying to avoid the impression that it was encouraging noncooperation with federal law as it exists, according to one source. (The Sanders campaign denied on Friday that Shakir ever spoke to Ocasio-Cortez about her immigration remarks.)
After that, Ocasio-Cortez ― already annoyed with the campaign’s Jan. 23 decision to publicize the endorsement of controversial podcast host Joe Rogan ― grew less interested in helping Sanders’ campaign, according to the source. After her last event in Iowa on Jan. 26, she did not return to the trail for Sanders until 16 days later, at the New Hampshire rally featuring The Strokes.
It’s unclear whether Ocasio-Cortez’s low profile affected Sanders’ performance in the primaries. Sanders continues to struggle with older voters, among whom Ocasio-Cortez has less of a following. Her campaign trail appearance in Michigan did not prevent Sanders’ double-digit loss to Biden there.
Ocasio-Cortez’s presence was likely more missed in Texas’ 28th Congressional District, where progressive attorney Jessica Cisneros fell just 3.6 percentage points shy of unseating conservative Democratic Rep. Henry Cuellar. Ocasio-Cortez endorsed Cisneros in late October but made no trips to South Texas on her behalf ahead of the close race. (Sanders, who endorsed Cisneros in late January, did not make the journey, either.)
The relatively infrequent appearance of an important Sanders surrogate shows the contrasting levels of discipline between the progressive and moderate wings of the Democratic Party.
While Ocasio-Cortez was staying off the campaign trail in the aftermath of Biden’s victory in South Carolina, three moderate ex-presidential contenders ― Amy Klobuchar, Pete Buttigieg and Beto O’Rourke ― endorsed Biden, ensuring him wall-to-wall national media coverage that provided momentum going into Super Tuesday.
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Refused To Campaign More For Sanders
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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) turned down repeated requests from Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign to appear at events promoting the Vermont senator’s candidacy in recent weeks, according to three people familiar with the discussions.
After the Iowa caucuses, Sanders campaign manager Faiz Shakir asked Ocasio-Cortez to stump for Sanders in New Hampshire, according to the sources. The campaign prepared a model schedule to highlight the kind of popular support she would expect if she attended, one of the people familiar with the talks said.
Ocasio-Cortez resisted the entreaties until a few days before the primary on Feb. 12. She ultimately spoke the day before the election at a Sanders rally in Durham, New Hampshire, where the rock band The Strokes performed.
“It was like pulling teeth to get her to New Hampshire,” said a second person who knew about the discussions.
The absence of the popular progressive lawmaker on the trail in the weeks that followed was even more notable. In nearly a month that passed from Feb. 11 until March 8 ― two days before the Michigan primary ― Ocasio-Cortez declined multiple invitations from Sanders’ campaign to speak on his behalf in Nevada, South Carolina and the 14 states that voted on Super Tuesday, the three people told HuffPost.
During that period, Sanders rose and fell quickly, going from the uncontested front-runner after Nevada’s Feb. 22 contest to a heavy underdog after a blowout in South Carolina on Feb. 29 and Super Tuesday routs on March 3.
As an embattled Sanders prepared to mount an unsuccessful stand against former Vice President Joe Biden in Michigan on Tuesday, the campaign again turned to Ocasio-Cortez for help.
She agreed at the last minute to deliver a speech on Sunday at a get-out-the-vote rally on the University of Michigan campus in Ann Arbor. Sanders’ campaign issued a revised media advisory about the rally the night before, informing the press that Ocasio-Cortez would be present.
Neither the Sanders campaign nor the campaign office of Ocasio-Cortez denied that she had turned down requests for additional appearances.
Senator Sanders and our campaign will never forget that in one of the most difficult moments for us, Rep. Ocasio-Cortez gave us a boost with her strong endorsement. Faiz Shakir, Sanders campaign manager
Instead, in a statement to HuffPost on Thursday, Shakir praised Ocasio-Cortez for her work on Sanders’ behalf, singling out her mid-October endorsement of Sanders after his heart attack. (Sanders’ allies credit the endorsement for helping revive his campaign, while backers of Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who also courted Ocasio-Cortez’s blessing, lament the deflating effect it had on her fortunes.)
“Senator Sanders and our campaign will never forget that in one of the most difficult moments for us, Rep. Ocasio-Cortez gave us a boost with her strong endorsement,” Shakir said. “And she has remained a steady and consistent ally, supporter, surrogate and adviser to the senator ever since.”
In a follow-up exchange on Friday, the Sanders campaign affirmed that Ocasio-Cortez has been one of the most frequent campaign-trail surrogates for Sanders.
Ocasio-Cortez’s apparent decision to avoid stumping for Sanders stands out precisely because of her intense work on his behalf in the fall and early winter. Ocasio-Cortez spoke for Sanders at 15 major rallies, beginning with a late-October appearance in Queens that drew an estimated 26,000 people. She spoke at a number of smaller Sanders events as well.
Ocasio-Cortez’s help proved especially critical in January, when Sanders was stuck in Washington participating in the impeachment trial of President Donald Trump. Over the weekend of Jan. 24 to Jan. 26, Ocasio-Cortez headlined seven rallies for Sanders in Iowa and spoke at a canvass kickoff for his campaign.
Although the Sanders team would not say whether Ocasio-Cortez’s decision to avoid the trail reflected any dispute, Lauren Hitt, a spokeswoman for Ocasio-Cortez, denied that the congresswoman’s itinerary reflected tensions with the campaign.
“The plan was always that she would slow down her surrogate work in February, after Iowa, to focus on her re-elect and congressional duties,” Hitt said.
But the first source said a disagreement over Ocasio-Cortez’s remarks in Iowa seemed to cool her on helping with the campaign.
At a rally in Ames on Jan. 25, Ocasio-Cortez delivered a speech in which she failed to mention Sanders’ name ― an omission that Fox News noticed and highlighted. She also encouraged those in attendance to tip off people about the presence of immigration enforcement authorities in their communities to help undocumented immigrants evade detention.
As Vanity Fair first reported in February, Shakir apparently communicated to Ocasio-Cortez his dissatisfaction over her remarks about alerting the presence of immigration authorities. While Sanders has sought to scrap and restructure the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency in its current form, his campaign has been trying to avoid the impression that it was encouraging noncooperation with federal law as it exists, according to one source. (The Sanders campaign denied on Friday that Shakir ever spoke to Ocasio-Cortez about her immigration remarks.)
After that, Ocasio-Cortez ― already annoyed with the campaign’s Jan. 23 decision to publicize the endorsement of controversial podcast host Joe Rogan ― grew less interested in helping Sanders’ campaign, according to the source. After her last event in Iowa on Jan. 26, she did not return to the trail for Sanders until 16 days later, at the New Hampshire rally featuring The Strokes.
It’s unclear whether Ocasio-Cortez’s low profile affected Sanders’ performance in the primaries. Sanders continues to struggle with older voters, among whom Ocasio-Cortez has less of a following. Her campaign trail appearance in Michigan did not prevent Sanders’ double-digit loss to Biden there.
Ocasio-Cortez’s presence was likely more missed in Texas’ 28th Congressional District, where progressive attorney Jessica Cisneros fell just 3.6 percentage points shy of unseating conservative Democratic Rep. Henry Cuellar. Ocasio-Cortez endorsed Cisneros in late October but made no trips to South Texas on her behalf ahead of the close race. (Sanders, who endorsed Cisneros in late January, did not make the journey, either.)
The relatively infrequent appearance of an important Sanders surrogate shows the contrasting levels of discipline between the progressive and moderate wings of the Democratic Party.
While Ocasio-Cortez was staying off the campaign trail in the aftermath of Biden’s victory in South Carolina, three moderate ex-presidential contenders ― Amy Klobuchar, Pete Buttigieg and Beto O’Rourke ― endorsed Biden, ensuring him wall-to-wall national media coverage that provided momentum going into Super Tuesday.
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they should have backed warren instead of being afraid of new taxes
fukking idiots.
WOW. Sanders didn't even hit up the goddamn chair of the Congressional Black Caucus 
“I know one thing, if I were going to run for president, I would work years in advance on building ties and building relationships — not just with African Americans — with all communities,” Bass said, adding that she believes Sanders failed to do that.
Bass noted that while the Vermont senator reached out to her once, around a year ago, she and Biden have spoken “a number of times” throughout the campaign.
“Senator Sanders called one time,” Bass said. “We didn’t have a conversation. He was inviting me to meet with him. But it was at the last minute, I wasn’t able to do it, and I never heard back.”
Rep. G. K. Butterfield, D-N.C., a former chair of the Congressional Black Caucus, endorsed Biden months ago and said Biden has a “deep relationship with the African American community.”
“Senator Sanders is a very idealistic person,” Butterfield said. “He grew up in New York and he spent most of his life in the New England states, and I’m not sure what he has the ability to connect with the soul of African Americans who reside in the south.”
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“I know one thing, if I were going to run for president, I would work years in advance on building ties and building relationships — not just with African Americans — with all communities,” Bass said, adding that she believes Sanders failed to do that.
Bass noted that while the Vermont senator reached out to her once, around a year ago, she and Biden have spoken “a number of times” throughout the campaign.
“Senator Sanders called one time,” Bass said. “We didn’t have a conversation. He was inviting me to meet with him. But it was at the last minute, I wasn’t able to do it, and I never heard back.”
Rep. G. K. Butterfield, D-N.C., a former chair of the Congressional Black Caucus, endorsed Biden months ago and said Biden has a “deep relationship with the African American community.”
“Senator Sanders is a very idealistic person,” Butterfield said. “He grew up in New York and he spent most of his life in the New England states, and I’m not sure what he has the ability to connect with the soul of African Americans who reside in the south.”
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