Lets be reality; Biggie was largely at fault with the Beef btw Pac

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:laff::laff::laff: That's all opinions nikka "bubub Pac was jealous". What I said were facts which all have dates. You cant refute facts with opinions.

your whole post is based off pac side of the story
:mjlol: da fukk makes that factual


the real & only reason the beef began was jealously from 'u know who

of course he was gonna be jealous
when your 3 plus years into your solo career and have no plat plaque while this new nikka gets a plat plaque in 3 months

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your whole post is based off pac side of the story
:mjlol: da fukk makes that factual


the real & only reason the beef began was jealously from 'u know who

of course he was gonna be jealous
when your 3 plus years into your solo career and have no plat plaque while this new nikka gets a plat plaque in 3 months

:umad:




All opinions. Piggie dropped who shot ya first and Pac responded. Dates and facts>>> Piggie stannery logic. And Pac had two plat plaques his first being in 93 with s4mn. Everyone was going plat and gold at the time. Find a better excuse
 

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All opinions. Piggie dropped who shot ya first and Pac responded. Dates and facts>>> Piggie stannery logic. And Pac had two plat plaques his first being in 93 with s4mn. Everyone was going plat and gold at the time. Find a better excuse

:snoop:
how many times do we have to go thru this shyt
your just fukking trolling now
I and several other posters already explained to you.... the song 'who shot ya' was recorded many months before pac even got shot -that's a fact ! - not fiction -
now was the song release later? absolutely
but it didn't matter and I'm pretty much sure before the shooting/beef biggie played the song to pac. because that's what hiphop nikkaz do -play their hot new unrelease shyt to their peers before anybody else even gets to hear it




again with your bullshyt as I always say too many of you pac stans try to rewrite history -and some of the things you can get away with
BUT others you cant and record sales is one of them
so stop with that lying bullshyt
((pac was just a gold artist -nothing more nothing less: either your pac stan trying to rewrite history OR your pac stan that young/naive & has gotten your false information from the internet over the years))

pac received his first platinum album in the month of April 1995 again roughly 3 1/2 years after he debuted

biggie he received his first platinum album in the month of March 1995 again roughly 6 months after he debuted


STOP fukkING LYING


 

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Biggie stannery logic and revisionist history is incredibly rampant (and its spewed by Piggie stans on the coli on a daily basis). So lets clear some stuff up;

Pac never claimed Biggie set him up, he claimed that he didn't tell him who shot him immediately after the shooting when asked (he was stalling), and he didn't team up with him against Puffy, Henchmen, Jack, etc (but I can see why Biggie didn't).

Biggie seeing Pac in the hospital right after the shooting doesn't negate what I said above.

When Pac went to jail he didn't throw Biggie under the bus because he didn't suspect Biggie of being involved in the set-up. nikkas in jail were trying to say Biggie was involved in some why, but Pac rebuffed those ideas.

February 20, 1995, Biggie and Puffy release "Who Shot Ya" after the shooting which is an ill-advised move on both parts, regardless if the song was meant for Pac or not.

April 1995, Pac does that Vibe interview discussing the shooting, and mentions Henchmen and Jack's involvement (and Puffy playing a role in it). I don't recall him naming Biggie (if so correct me on this I haven't read that shyt in a while). Even in Against All Odds he names the nikkas that had a hand on his setup/shooting, and once again he never named Biggie.

Now DPG and Snoop release NY NY in November of 1995, as a tribute song to NY. Now what does Biggie do? He goes to a radio show saying Pac and DPG were filming in NY and "How are we gonna let them do this".

DPG and Snoop's trailer gets shot up (idk I heard rumors that it was Henchmen's goons), and they turn that song into a diss.

Pac, deadly threat, Dj quick, and DPG release NY 87 as a response to Biggie's reckless actions.

June 4, 1996, Pac releases Hit em Up as a response Who Shot Ya.


1. "Pac blamed Biggie for the setup".
Debunked. He never blamed Biggie for no setup. He only accussed him of being a coward and disloyal (argumentative)
2. "But Pac and Biggie's friendship was a year long. Why would Pac be Angry". Considering Pac let Biggie open during his concerts, letting him sleep on his couch since he was homeless, taking the fall for gun charges for Biggie and his crew when they left it and dipped during the scene (idk where), giving Junior Mafia enough bus money to go home (:pachaha:), Biggie stole Pac's album concept (and didn't even give him a shoutout) on R2D, etc. So Pac being "angry" at Big is justified.
3. "But Pac beefed with Biggie to sell records". Possibly the biggest lie and excuse used by Biggie stans born after 1993. Pac already had a gold album (thug life vol 1) and 2 plat albums (s4mn and matw), and movie roles that would ensure his longevity in the entertainment industry. In fact, all of Pac's disses were a result of Biggie's first song that he released. As I listed above Pac never talked to the media until Biggie released Who Shot Ya. And why would Pac want to beef to sell records during a time when everyone was going gold and platinum without beefing?


Biggie stan logic debunked.

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I and several other posters already explained to you.... the song 'who shot ya' was recorded many months before pac even got shot -that's a fact ! - not fiction -
now was the song release later? absolutely

You gotta re-read my shyt. I already stated that BIG and Puffy releasing the song was an "ill-advised move on both parts, regardless if the song was meant for Pac or not". In other words, it doesn't matter if the song was meant for him or not, the song is what triggered Pac to release Hit em UP and many other diss records. It made matters worse for Pac and Big. Personally I don't think it was a "diss" record.

but it didn't matter and I'm pretty much sure before the shooting/beef biggie played the song to pac. because that's what hiphop nikkaz do -play their hot new unrelease shyt to their peers before anybody else even gets to hear it
Source? This proves nothing, and it doesn't back up your point.
(pac was just a gold artist -nothing more nothing less: either your pac stan trying to rewrite history OR your pac stan that young/naive & has gotten your false information from the internet over the years))
Um... You're trying to re-write history. He had 1 gold album (group album), three platinum albums while he was alive. And Pac "creating" beefs (and I am pretty sure you're going to use that to justify your asinine statement that Pac was a "gold artist") to inflate his sales doesn't take away those numbers.
pac received his first platinum album in the month of April 1995 again roughly 3 1/2 years after he debuted
I said S4MN went plat in 93' and I was wrong, that's when it was released. But the album (along with MATW) went plat before Pac even mentioned BIG's and Puffy's involvement in the shooting at NY.
 

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1. :patrice: wasnt a line in hitem up about frank white setting traps?

2.your right pac should have been angry he watched that black ashy fat greasy ugly nikka that used to sleep on the couch do what he tried for years in his first album:sas2: pac was jealous of big

3.ofcourse pac beefed with big for sales are u that much of a stan that u gonna act like suge wasnt gassin pac with that 97 octane:comeon: ... pac was a pawn in a chess game between suge and puff.. he was scared to get at the ny goonies who sonned him repeatedly so biggie and ny was the easy choice to blame to save face:heh:
facts although i wouldn't necessarily say Pac was scared
 

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them nikkaz souls are still burning after 18 years. You know why? It's on MATW... the 1st words on "If I Die 2nite"... "A coward dies a thousand deaths, a soldier dies but once"

These nikkaz still dying their thousand deaths.

I dont wanna live in a world where its cool for a nikka to turn his back on another nikka that help him get a leg up and provide for they families... "nikkaz tried to kill me and I fed they wife and they daughters..." shyt is despicable, there's almost nothing worse...
my gawd you're such a cac
 
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