Lets be Real: Neither Nintendo nor Microsoft thought the PS4 would be priced so cheap

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Yeah, investors and people like losing money. As long as a small amount of gamers enjoy Mario 3D and Donkey Kong, we'll keep running at a loss because the customer comes first. That argument is bullshyt. Why have they been scrambling in the news? And legit rumors of Nintendo franchises going mobile in certain ways? Because nobody likes losing money no matter how much you have.

I know Nintendo stans love to think Nintendo does it all for the gamers, but they're probably more money driven than the other two motherfukkers in the gaming market.
I like your argument but you went against it in the final statement

They're all multi-million dollar companies, all them mothafukkas money driven beyond our imagination lol
 

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There are all kinds of mobile games in Japan that are like JRPGs, platformers, and the like.
I feel you, dumb statement on my part.

But do they really push "imagination" any more than our Final Fantasy and all that?

Their culture just ain't rocking with the consoles though, I can dig it
 

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Mobile gaming on cell phones and handhelds. They :camby: consoles as we know it and want more enjoyable, simplistic gaming. These Cinematic games turn them off because they lack actual imagination and focus too much on the real world and relaism. Japanese games traditionally focus on pushing imaginations and gameplay. Now that is mostly gone from consoles, they moved on to phones.
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You do realize that there are specific Japanese centric PS games catered to japanese players right?? Just because you see here in America people are more into violent, shooting games doesn't mean the same shyt you see advertise in America is marketed towards japanese players. Yakuza, Dynasty warriors and nobunaga as well as games like Knack and smaller games are what they're into. You acting like they was marketing Killzone in Japan.
 

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Ouya wasn't seeing ps4 at that price either


They are seeing xlarry tho


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I feel you, dumb statement on my part.

But do they really push "imagination" any more than our Final Fantasy and all that?

Their culture just ain't rocking with the consoles though, I can dig it

They do. Some Japanese games are on the weird side, though. lol
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You do realize that there are specific Japanese centric PS games catered to japanese players right?? Just because you see here in America people are more into violent, shooting games doesn't mean the same shyt you see advertise in America is marketed towards japanese players. Yakuza, Dynasty warriors and nobunaga as well as games like Knack and smaller games are what they're into. You acting like they was marketing Killzone in Japan.



Yeah, those Japanese centric games on the PS4 still can't push it beyond the abysmal numbers in Japan. shyt, it is barely outselling the Wii U. Console gaming in Japan is seeing its last days, it seems. Sony got lucky in Europe and in Japan, IMO.
 

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They do. Some Japanese games are on the weird side, though. lol



Yeah, those Japanese centric games on the PS4 still can't push it beyond the abysmal numbers in Japan. shyt, it is barely outselling the Wii U. Console gaming in Japan is seeing its last days, it seems. Sony got lucky in Europe and in Japan, IMO.
Those Japanese centric PS4 games such as the ones that came out on PS3 also on the same day like Dynasty Warriors 8 and Yakuza Ishin probably played a role in that but let's just gloss over that fact so we keep pushing this "Sony is doomed!!!" agenda. I agree that console gaming is lagging in Japan but so is handheld sales(3DS isn't selling as much as the DS did) but that can again be attributed to mobile gaming over there. Also you say you think Sony got lucky in Europe and Japan but then you started off your post saying they got abysmal numbers in Japan, which is it?? The PS4 launch did better than the PS3's launch in Japan but worse than PS2's launch. I think it's too early to determine what is "abysmal" for now.
 

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Those Japanese centric PS4 games such as the ones that came out on PS3 also on the same day like Dynasty Warriors 8 and Yakuza Ishin probably played a role in that but let's just gloss over that fact so we keep pushing this "Sony is doomed!!!" agenda. I agree that console gaming is lagging in Japan but so is handheld sales(3DS isn't selling as much as the DS did) but that can again be attributed to mobile gaming over there. Also you say you think Sony got lucky in Europe and Japan but then you started off your post saying they got abysmal numbers in Japan, which is it?? The PS4 launch did better than the PS3's launch in Japan but worse than PS2's launch. I think it's too early to determine what is "abysmal" for now.

I meant Europe and America lol

But Sony PS4 is not the massive success in Japan.
 

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I meant Europe and America lol

But Sony PS4 is not the massive success in Japan.
I want to know why you think "luck" is what got Sony selling crazy in America.... Because in my book, someone in business is out to make money and playing your cards right at the right time and leveraging off competitors mishaps are what it's all about. It's like some of y'all expects Sony to charge $600 for their console and add anti-consumer policies to their system and still sell so you can be convinced that Sony is still a big name. :snoop: It's chess. If Microsoft didn't stumble around the time Ps4 revealed, things would've been obviously better but they played their cards wrong.
 

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I want to know why you think "luck" is what got Sony selling crazy in America.... Because in my book, someone in business is out to make money and playing your cards right at the right time and leveraging off competitors mishaps are what it's all about. It's like some of y'all expects Sony to charge $600 for their console and add anti-consumer policies to their system and still sell so you can be convinced that Sony is still a big name. :snoop: It's chess. If Microsoft didn't stumble around the time Ps4 revealed, things would've been obviously better but they played their cards wrong.

That is cause Americans are whores to graphics and first person shooters.
 

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That is cause Americans are whores to graphics and first person shooters.
:what: What does that have to do with anything?
Also Americans aren't solely graphic whores, it's just something that's nice to point out but it's not the end all be all when it comes to games selling. If that was true, the best looking games on consoles would be the highest selling games ever. The games that usually end up selling the most is the games that are pushed heavy to consumers with huge marketing blitz thus securing a spot in a consumers mind. First person shooters are all the rage because of some franchises actually being good and looking great at the time. Games like Halo, COD, BF etc. at the time of release was very fresh and spread quickly.
 

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naw, it has nothing to do with price...Nintendo just don't give a fukk, like others have said...they in their own world when it comes to gaming, and they know it...they just fukked up with the wii u, and they know it...as for ms, they just got caught with they pants down, like others have said...they didn't think the system was coming this soon...when sony announced theirs, ms had to announce theirs, even though it wasn't ready....they weren't gonna give sony a headstart...

also, why people talking about sales in japan lacking? yall do realize they still recovering from natural disasters and the nuclear plant shyt...they minds is on other things, not gaming....
 

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:what: What does that have to do with anything?
Also Americans aren't solely tied to graphics, it's just something that's nice to point out but it's not the end all be all when it comes to games selling. If that was true, the best looking games on consoles would be the highest selling games ever. The games that usually end up selling the most is the games that are pushed heavy to consumers with huge marketing blitz thus securing a spot in a consumers mind. First person shooters are all the rage because of some franchises actually being good and looking great at the time. Games like Halo, COD, BF etc. at the time of release was very fresh and spread quickly.

First person shooters were the rage in the OG Xbox era and the 360 era in America. Now, they are as stale as anything with a few exceptions (Bioshock, for example). Sony got lucky with the success of the PS4 because they learned their mistakes of the PS3 and on top of that, they released a cheaper machine than the X1.
 

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Wild self said:
First person shooters were the rage in the OG Xbox era and the 360 era in America. Now, they are as stale as anything with a few exceptions (Bioshock, for example). Sony got lucky with the success of the PS4 because they learned their mistakes of the PS3 and on top of that, they released a cheaper machine than the X1.

So.. what's wrong with that?? I'm not saying you're saying anything but I get the vibe that some people seem to have an issue with Sony playing smarter this go round.
Also not every FPS is stale, it may be to you because of the inundation of so many FPS games but again there is a bunch of other genre's out there that people ignore. So many slept on games produced by Sony but I don't hear people talking about them.[/QUOTE]
 

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So.. what's wrong with that?? I'm not saying you're saying anything but I get the vibe that some people seem to have an issue with Sony playing smarter this go round.
Also not every FPS is stale, it may be to you because of the inundation of so many FPS games but again there is a bunch of other genre's out there that people ignore. So many slept on games produced by Sony but I don't hear people talking about them.
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Sony ain't gonna have the quirky games like Klona or anything of that sort. It basically be ran on American made games on realism, sorta like M$. That is the main reason why the console market in Japan is taking a nosedive, because of a lack of innovation.
 

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Sony ain't gonna have the quirky games like Klona or anything of that sort. It basically be ran on American made games on realism, sorta like M$. That is the main reason why the console market in Japan is taking a nosedive, because of a lack of innovation.
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Sony has lots of different games, it's just that they're usually sent out to die because their overshadowed by big games with huge marketing budgets.
For example,
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Look at all these games... None of these games ever get brought up yet people always say Sony just makes games focused on cinematic action and crazy graphics. :smh: Uncharted and Killzone isn't the only games Sony ever published.
 
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