DStyles
Vegan
So Kobe carried Shaq to his 3 rings with the Lakers?
Who carried the Heat to those back to back ships?
Who carried the Heat to those back to back ships?
Let's be real: It's Kobe, Dwade and then Lebron
Goatpoacher
Superstar
it's like @Leasy lost his mind since the breh @Sonny Corinthos exposed him on the coli jam screen
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Sonny Corinthos
Superstar
plushcarpet
Superstar
yea one game in december discredits an entire career
gtfo
I mean who in their prime leaves two 60 win teams in their career? Nobody is answering the question? Lebron ran to Dwade cause he knew he had the killer instinct he never had. One of the most unreliable players in the clutch in NBA history.
No 4 NBA performances and leaving two 60 win teams, no NBA skill but pure strength just imagine if he played in the days of Iverson, Jordan, Kobe when the big men could fukk your ass up left and right on the court.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
I Got Game
The Greg Ostertag of trolling.
superunknown23
Superstar
Another terrible thread...
2015 has been rough on this forum
2015 has been rough on this forum
The teams had 60+ wins because of Lebron.
Cavs
2009-10 61-21 with Lebron Lost Conf. Semis
2010-11 19-63 without Lebron Missed Playoffs
2011-12 21-45 without Lebron Missed Playoffs
2012-13 24-58 without Lebron Missed Playoffs
2013-14 33-49 without Lebron Missed Playoffs
2014-15 53-29 with Lebron Lost Finals
Heat (4 NBA Finals appearances with him, 2 NBA Finals wins)
2009-10 47-35 without Lebron 1st rd exit (very respectable)
2010-11 58-24 with Lebron Lost in the Finals
2011-12 46-20 with Lebron Won Finals (shortened season)
2012-13 66-16 with Lebron Won Finals
2013-14 54-28 with Lebron Lost Finals
2014-15 37-45 without Lebron Missed Playoffs
Clear pattern here, he makes teams instant contenders, when he leaves they become damn near irrelevant.
Your other points really aren't even worthy of a response, but fukk it. Wade will not go down anywhere near Lebron on the all time list. Kobe will be close but Lebron will surpass him, and already has to many people.
Stats actually prove otherwise, I'm not going to find the links for you, but I promise if you google it you'll find out the exact opposite. His misses obviously get far too much attention, but in clutch situations Kobe actually has a far worse shooting % and Lebron has him handily in late game/4th quarter clutch statistics. Before responding, do a quick google search and I promise you'll find out that what I'm saying is correct.
EDIT: fukk it, it was so easy to find
LeBron James is now measurably as clutch as Michael Jordan
"This was the third time in his career that James hit a game-winning shot at the buzzer during a postseason game, according to ESPN Stats & Info. That's the same number that Michael Jordan hit in his career. LeBron has also now made four go-ahead shots in the "final seconds" of playoffs games, per ESPN Stats & Info. Over the past 15 years no one has hit more."
"In the playoffs LeBron has now taken 10 potential go-ahead shots in the final five seconds of the fourth quarter or overtime. He's connected on six of them, according to ESPN's Brian Windhorst. Jordan was 5-of-11 in such situations during his career."
"And let's not leave Kobe Bryant out of this conversation either. LeBron is now 8-of-19 on potential game-tying or go-ahead shots taken in the final 24 seconds of the fourth quarter or overtime during postseason games, per ESPN's Aloki Pattani. Bryant has hit less (7) despite taking more (28)."
These are solid statistics, let's not try to find some kind of bullshyt excuse to cancel out the fact that Lebron has been more clutch than Kobe, and technically even more than Jordan, though he hasn't done it in quite the legendary fashion that Jordan did, but he has a better fg % in clutch situations than both Jordan and Kobe, hitting more shots on less attempts than both of them.
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Miami is third in the East and healthy starting to gel. Last year they had injuries.
You still didn't answer my question. Who leaves two 60 win teams and complain about the team he currently on? He runs to championship how you championship chasing at 28 breh
Lebron does. And makes the team he's going to better instantly, while the team he leaves does the exact opposite.
Also the other greats never had to chip chase cause they were drafted to teams with other greats or that signed other all time greats.
Kobe didn't do anything until Shaq came there.
Magic had Kareem.
Jordan didn't win anything until he had Pippen (who is a better all around player than Wade btw).
Bird had MULTIPLE Hall of Fame players.
The list goes on and on, no one ever won on their own, and Lebron didn't have a true great teammate until Wade, and Wade was already on the downside of his career, though still a great player.
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