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So Obama got 45% of the white vote. How much of that was due to white guilt? And Obama got 95% of the black vote. How much of that was due to Obama being black? Again, Obama got more votes because he is black than Mccain got due to him being white..

That's not true. Do the math, friend, and remember that historically, Black folks overwhelmingly voted Dem whether or not the candidate was Black.
 

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Unfortunately, the internet doesnt really matter in these cases.

This video could get 5 million views on YouTube and it wont matter. It wont get replayed on TV, or make front page news, and it wont reach 90% of the voting public.

Are you out of your fukkmg mind? Newspapers might as well be dead no one reads them and the three news networks get like tops 8 million viewers put together xD

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:beli: No white democrat running for President has ever turned out as many black people to vote as Obama did in '08 since the 1964 election

So? Black people are a small minority of the US population. Their voting power is relatively meager. You can't fairly compare them to the white voting demographic in this case.
 

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So? Black people are a small minority of the US population. Their voting power is relatively meager. You can't fairly compare them to the white voting demographic in this case.

:sitdown:

The black Vote in certain states such as Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and North Carolina is why Obama won so yes the comparison applies in this instance.
 

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The black Vote in certain states such as Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and North Carolina is why Obama won so yes the comparison applies in this instance.

First of all, the Black vote did not win Obama the vote in those states. The Hispanic/Latino vote, along with other immigrant groups, and still other demographics contributed more than the Black vote did. Second, make the comparison- go ahead and do the math, like I said. The results, though they're rough estimates, are pretty stark. There's no way a comparable number of people voted for Obama because of race than voted against him because of it.
 

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First of all, the Black vote did not win Obama the vote in those states. The Hispanic/Latino vote, along with other immigrant groups, and still other demographics contributed more than the Black vote did. Second, make the comparison- go ahead and do the math, like I said. The results, though they're rough estimates, are pretty stark. There's no way a comparable number of people voted for Obama because of race than voted against him because of it.

And why is that?
 

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Because there are far more white race-voters than black race-voters, even if you conceive of the percentage of racist voters in each population as being the same.

thanks for making my original point which was that most whites who voted for Obama in '08, voted for him based on his race out of white guilt..
 

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thanks for making my original point which was that most whites who voted for Obama in '08, voted for him based on his race out of white guilt..

I didn't make your point. My point concerned racists, not guilt-voters. If you really think that there are more whites who feel guilty than whites who did not vote for Obama based on his race, I have a bridge to sell you.

Imagine how much better the systemic condition of Black people would be if more white felt guilt than animosity...
 

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I didn't make your point. My point concerned racists, not guilt-voters. If you really think that there are more whites who feel guilty than whites who did not vote for Obama based on his race, I have a bridge to sell you.

Imagine how much better the systemic condition of Black people would be if more white felt guilt than animosity...

Yes, you did make my original point which was white guilt being a major factor in the '08 election accounting more in the '08 election than racists who voted against Obama. There is no difference between a white person voting for a black person based off guilt, and a white person voting against a black person based off race. There is a racial component involved in both instances and they both are negative. Because the white crackers who vote for a black man out of white guilt does so because they think there vote will end systematic racism of the current white power structure that is in place to keep none whites down. Thats why I dont take none of these liberal white elites on TV seriously when they talk about black folks. They keep peddling the propaganda of republicans wanting to take food stamps away from black people so that there corporatist democratic party can grab more power, all the while not really doing anything about the black man's CONDITION in America. The systemic condition of black people will not change in this current two party system... the sooner you realize, the better.
 

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Cactain Planet, you sound like a guy with an agenda who has no way of quantifying anything that he is saying. I can't quite call you a troll, but you don't sound very bright. No, I will not be given you a detailed account of why you are wrong. I don't have the energy for that, but I just wanted you to know that you're completely wrong so that maybe you'll go do the research and you won't come across as a fool in the future. The smart dumb nikka ratio in this forum is at an all time high.
 

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Cactain Planet, you sound like a guy with an agenda who has no way of quantifying anything that he is saying. I can't quite call you a troll, but you don't sound very bright. No, I will not be given you a detailed account of why you are wrong. I don't have the energy for that, but I just wanted you to know that you're completely wrong so that maybe you'll go do the research and you won't come across as a fool in the future. The smart dumb nikka ratio in this forum is at an all time high.

Im completely wrong because you say so? :ohhh: Naw nikka, there's nothing you can say because a white person voting for a black candidate out of guilt IS Racism just as much as a white person voting against a black person because they are black.
 

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yall are argument semantics right now. Neither candidate will do sht for you
 
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