Less than half the world lives in a Democracy
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Liberals getting up in arms because people rightfully accuse them of being complicit with fascists (they are) always amuses me
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Baby it’s my day off, ur the one mad because people are rightfully accusing you and your ilkof being complicit in the rise of fascism because y’all like to finger wag anyone who rightfully pushes back and then beg for moderation and common ground with people who want to strip you of ur rightsI'm chilling. You're the one angry. As usual
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NZA
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the countries bernie sanders keeps name checking are the only full democracies...
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NZA
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sanders, not sandinistas
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Yep.. all democracies eventually fall back into some non-democractic form of govt.
I got some reasons as to why I think that is
Like who?
I wonder if that's really true. Autocratic rule / centralization has been the norm in the supposed "civilized" world in recent history, once large population centers started. But most of human history is outside of that.
It's difficult to know due to its place in pre-history, but I wonder if the bulk of actual human history (or at least last 10,000 years or so) has been much more democratic and libertarian in its much smaller groups, and autocracy has only dominated once autocrats could accumulate overriding power. If you are leader of a group of 80 rather than a group of 80,000, it's much more difficult to force obedience. Your tribe isn't large enough for you to afford to hire professional soldiers/police, so no one is going to do shyt just because you ordered them to. No one would own any weapons that would allow them to intimidate everyone else as a whole group. Perhaps you can kick any one person's ass but you can't kick everyone's ass. So you have to have a much greater degree of consent from the people you "rule".
I would be willing to bet that autocracy as the default leadership style has only emerged once populations became so large that rulers could afford to hire significantly large forces of soldiers to enforce their will. Until then people would have been better at working out shyt together.
Source?
Let's say in the last 1000 years, how many democracies have lasted at least 60 years and then failed?
Direct Democracy is the true democracy. Switzerland is the only country that does this... Where citizens are the ones that pass laws and everyone is part of the government. Basically we the people, Representative democracy is not real. 500 people make decisions for 330 million+... shyt turns into a petty oligarch real fast. How is that democracy?
you oversold it. This is essentially how our States work.
And almost all of our States are bigger than Switzerland. We have 50 Switzerlands here.
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Our states do not work this way at all. The Swiss are not actively keeping people from voting or stripping them of their rights to representation. I remember that time you pushed states rights as of this shyt was actively going on.