Leo Santa Cruz on Rigo fight: "Haymon told me none of the fans would be happy to see that fight"

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Never said that. But I'll say till the day I die that I'm happy to see them get paid.

You want to punish them for being able to get paid while taking smaller risks, I say it's smart because this is the HURT business. Legacy ain't gonna do shyt for a swindled, damaged man. If I can feed myself and my family in this line of work for millions taking smaller risks, I'm gonna do it for as long as I can. Don't assume I like his recent run of opponents, because I've already stated IN this thread that I do not. However, I will not fault him for getting paid.

Defend having shytty fights brehs. :heh:
 

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NOPE. You go ahead and stream, do what you feel is right. However, hurting the man's pockets is extremely short sighted.....
Hurting their pockets to get better fights is short sided? :dahell:

How can any boxing fan be content with the current landscape of the sport where mothafukkas spend more time politicking and fighting over contract demands than challenging themselves in the ring? You may be more interested in that bullshyt but boxing fans want to watch fights...This is prize fighting and LSC knew that when he decided to make boxing his career...So miss me with all this fight cans to protect your health bullshyt bruh...

You want to get paid? give the fans what they want to see and challenge yourself...
 

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Hurting their pockets to get better fights is short sided? :dahell:

How can any boxing fan be content with the current landscape of the sport where mothafukkas spend more time politicking and fighting over contract demands than challenging themselves in the ring? You may be more interested in that bullshyt but boxing fans want to watch fights...This is prize fighting and LSC knew that when he decided to make boxing his career...So miss me with all this fight cans to protect your health bullshyt bruh...

You want to get paid? give the fans what they want to see and challenge yourself...

Thank you.

nikkas kill me with all this shyt about discussing politics and purses in these threads like they a part of the boxers management team. I give 2 fukks about all that shyt. I just want to see a good fukking fight between the best boxers out. That's it. It's to the point where we discuss the business side of boxing more than the actual match ups.
 

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Hurting their pockets to get better fights is short sided? :dahell:

How can any boxing fan be content with the current landscape of the sport where mothafukkas spend more time politicking and fighting over contract demands than challenging themselves in the ring? You may be more interested in that bullshyt but boxing fans want to watch fights...This is prize fighting and LSC knew that when he decided to make boxing his career...So miss me with all this fight cans to protect your health bullshyt bruh...

You want to get paid? give the fans what they want to see and challenge yourself...
He is getting paid. He's challenged himself, passed with flying colors every time. Has he challenged himself in his last two bouts? Not in my opinion.

There's no one size fits all analogy to making it rich in this sport. "Fight the best and you'll get paid", no. Some fighters have a much easier route to success than others due to several factors, and if they're getting paid, all power to em. Today, I'm a bigger fan of the boxer than the sport that has done nothing but destroy men countless times for entertainment value. In the past I would've agreed with you and LB but I see things much differently now, and I realize that the "hardcore" fan of anything can never be satisfied. I'm not saying they're always wrong, but these are men with family and responsibilities we will never help them take on. Fans feel more entitled than ever to have everything their way, especially on the internet, but I just want to see these guys healthy and rich. Whatever route they take to this is up to them and I support them either way. Do I "like" every decision made, of course not, but I won't pretend like I wouldn't have my fighter do the same thing.

Pretending like sports glory is more important than the money is a facade. It's the selfishness of the supposed "fan" and media that pushes this imaginary agenda. They point fingers and get mad at the work horse for making smart decisions yet never seem to look the way of the owners and organizations that bleed and work these horses to the death with no remorse nor leniency. The only legitimate claims of unfair dodging was during the era when MY people (I'm assuming you're both white, apologies if I'm wrong), were not allowed to have marquee matches. In today's landscape, you have many options to taking control of your career and doing what's best for business, your business.
 

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He is getting paid. He's challenged himself, passed with flying colors every time. Has he challenged himself in his last two bouts? Not in my opinion.

There's no one size fits all analogy to making it rich in this sport. "Fight the best and you'll get paid", no. Some fighters have a much easier route to success than others due to several factors, and if they're getting paid, all power to em. Today, I'm a bigger fan of the boxer than the sport that has done nothing but destroy men countless times for entertainment value. In the past I would've agreed with you and LB but I see things much differently now, and I realize that the "hardcore" fan of anything can never be satisfied. I'm not saying they're always wrong, but these are men with family and responsibilities we will never help them take on. Fans feel more entitled than ever to have everything their way, especially on the internet, but I just want to see these guys healthy and rich. Whatever route they take to this is up to them and I support them either way. Do I "like" every decision made, of course not, but I won't pretend like I wouldn't have my fighter do the same thing.

Pretending like sports glory is more important than the money is a facade. It's the selfishness of the supposed "fan" and media that pushes this imaginary agenda. They point fingers and get mad at the work horse for making smart decisions yet never seem to look the way of the owners and organizations that bleed and work these horses to the death with no remorse nor leniency. The only legitimate claims of unfair dodging was during the era when MY people (I'm assuming you're both white, apologies if I'm wrong), were not allowed to have marquee matches. In today's landscape, you have many options to taking control of your career and doing what's best for business, your business.


This post sounds almost EXACTLY what my breh @synistr would say about understanding the BUSINESS vs the BOXING:wow:


Where is @synistr anyways?:to:


As to your post...I agree even though the "fan" in me doesnt care, the person in me does and I understand:obama:


Honestly, why would someone work HARDER when they can get paid almost as much for easier work?:dahell: It's work smarter, not harder right?:sas1:


My boy AB gets 1 million + to fight Carlos Molina, Emmanuel Taylor, John Molina....why WOULD he chase Danny Garcia for real when he knows it's a chance he can lose and NOT make millions anymore just for the "hardcore fans" enjoyment?:manny:


If he loses, gone is the million dollar paydays and all the publicity. I totally understand even though the fan in me is like :snoop:


What LSC is doing makes perfect sense for his family and his career:yeshrug:
 

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He is getting paid. He's challenged himself, passed with flying colors every time. Has he challenged himself in his last two bouts? Not in my opinion.

There's no one size fits all analogy to making it rich in this sport. "Fight the best and you'll get paid", no. Some fighters have a much easier route to success than others due to several factors, and if they're getting paid, all power to em. Today, I'm a bigger fan of the boxer than the sport that has done nothing but destroy men countless times for entertainment value. In the past I would've agreed with you and LB but I see things much differently now, and I realize that the "hardcore" fan of anything can never be satisfied. I'm not saying they're always wrong, but these are men with family and responsibilities we will never help them take on. Fans feel more entitled than ever to have everything their way, especially on the internet, but I just want to see these guys healthy and rich. Whatever route they take to this is up to them and I support them either way. Do I "like" every decision made, of course not, but I won't pretend like I wouldn't have my fighter do the same thing.

Pretending like sports glory is more important than the money is a facade. It's the selfishness of the supposed "fan" and media that pushes this imaginary agenda. They point fingers and get mad at the work horse for making smart decisions yet never seem to look the way of the owners and organizations that bleed and work these horses to the death with no remorse nor leniency. The only legitimate claims of unfair dodging was during the era when MY people (I'm assuming you're both white, apologies if I'm wrong), were not allowed to have marquee matches. In today's landscape, you have many options to taking control of your career and doing what's best for business, your business.


@LauderdaleBoss is def not white..he's light skinned though..prolly one of the more intimidating lookin light skinned cats..dude looks like a bigger version of saladin in the first undisputed movie lol
 

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:mjlol: at me being white just because I wanna see young boxers take on stiffer competition after they done milked the belts/networks for a couple years (like LSC has apparently done)

Damn we went from talking about boxing match ups to the business side of boxing and now into the racial demographics of boxing fans. :bryan:
 

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:mjlol: at me being white just because I wanna see young boxers take on stiffer competition after they done milked the belts/networks for a couple years (like LSC has apparently done)

Damn we went from talking about boxing match ups to the business side of boxing and now into the racial demographics of boxing fans. :bryan:
No, it's the belief of taking money out of the pockets of non-white athletes that had me :patrice:

Outside of the internet, I've never heard any Black person say this, though I've heard it from the other side :mjpls:

We're in agreement about the competition, we're NOT in agreement about how
 

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No, it's the belief of taking money out of the pockets of non-white athletes that had me :patrice:

Outside of the internet, I've never heard any Black person say this, though I've heard it from the other side :mjpls:

We're in agreement about the competition, we're NOT in agreement about how

My boxing opinions transcend racial bias's. :blessed:

Hey if Haymon/Showtime/HBO etc.. wanna pay a guy like LSC top dollar to face sparring partners that's on them. Just do that shyt off air. We don't need fights like that shoved down or throats.

If changing the pay structure for some of these boxers can help change that mentality then fine, if it can't it's whatever. I'm not going to lose sleep over it. I never said anything about taking money out of a nikkas pockets. That's what you keep saying. I just want boxers to actually earn their pay days just like every other normal working joe blow that has to earn their pay check.

If nikkas wanna disagree with that then :manny:
 

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rigo would murk this dude

this guy named his newborn after al haymon yo come on
 

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No, it's the belief of taking money out of the pockets of non-white athletes that had me :patrice:

Outside of the internet, I've never heard any Black person say this, though I've heard it from the other side :mjpls:

We're in agreement about the competition, we're NOT in agreement about how

here's my thing..im aware boxing is prize fighting..you fight to get paid first but boxers need to earn that big money..all races..nothing good comes out of giving a young hungry fighter big money early..look at lou dibella when he signed some of those cats off the 2000 Olympic team..paying them big money for asigning bonus...with the exception of jermain taylor they didnt pan out..LSC needs to fight serious contenders at 122 to justify what he's getting paid..no more cherry picking
 

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The only way to stop this shyt is to stop supporting BS match ups. If nikkas stop buying MAY vs random hyped up messican warrior 47 or PAC vs random bum ass kid that is a paper champ 52, then we could get the fights we want. Stop putting money into these nikkas pockets, and they will be FORCED to meet our demands. Us as the fans are giving these dudes the power to mess up boxing cuz we hand over buku bucks for weak ass fights. If nikkas had to fight the tough fights to make a lot of money, then they would do that but why risk your career when you can fight Salka and still do numbers? :yeshrug:
 
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