Lebron is closer to 40 than 30 and he's hurt. Does he get a pass this year?

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No bruh I just wasn't online and I remember cats actually having these conversations in person...


even today nobody talks about analytics in person. You bring up Kobe vs Bron today no nikka in real life is gonna bring up PER and VORP.....the analytics argument was always some online shyt even cacs too afraid to mention that shyt in real life to nikkas who actually play sports
 

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nikkas hate him for comparisons and projections the media made when he was 17.

The answer is no.

He will never get a pass or any slack until he's gone and even then a lot of these dudes will still hate because they feel his praise was an attempt to "erase" their hero.
 

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how is bron better than giannas right now when bron dont even attempt to play defense giannas is literally him without dwade bosh kyrie kevin love and AD. Give giannas a devin booker and karl anthony towns he win the chip to. People just want to run with the narrative but bron literally playing with a top 5 player right now and has played with a top 10 player the last decade
 

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HES RIGHT.
ALL THEY DID WAS POUND
THE BOARD WITH STATS
TO CLAIM BRON WAS BETTER.

NOW THAT ALL THESE OTHER PLAYERS
HAVE BETTER STATS THAN BRON
THEY WANNA USE RINGS AND
POST SEASON SUCCESS...

THE SAME shyt KOBE HAD
OVER BRON.

:devil:
:evil:

ALL THESE OTHER PLAYERS
HAVE BEEN PUTTING UP BETTER NUMBERS THAN BRON
SO NOW HIS BASE POINTS
TO HIS POST SEASON SUCCESS...

WHEN BRON WAS PUTTING
UP NUMBERS AND EVERYBODY
WAS POINTING TO KOBE POST SEASON
SUCCESS IT WAS A PROBLEM.

YALL LITERALLY DOING THE SAME shyt.
CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS...

USE STATS WHEN THEY BENEFIT BRON
THEN USE POST SEASON SUCCESS
WHEN HE DOESNT HAVE THE
BEST NUMBERS ANYMORE.

:devil:
:evil:

This is true.

The coli Sohh, barber shops, college campuses... the stan wars amounted to Bron’s monster stats vs Kobe’s skill / team success / ‘tangibles.

“He only scores by barreling through ppl, can’t shoot, ugly game, regular season player, front runner, freezes up in the playoffs vs good comp, can’t lead a team to a chip, needs someone else to take the clutch shots, back-to-back MVPs with back-to-back choke jobs when expectations were highest..”

Sounds like Giannis right? Well that was literally the MO on LeBron 10 years ago (at 26 years old). Stat padder but not a winner like Kobe.
 

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He's gonna win another ring if AD has his head on straight and he's at least 80%.
 

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Eh he had a few big games those two seasons but even when he did play his athleticism had pretty much left him and his jumpshot was good but not great. Don't get me wrong Michael was still good but it wasn't at the same level as what Bron was doing prior to getting hurt. I would say Jordan was a notch under that.

Before Jordan's knee injury he had the Wizards on a playoff trajectory, had them about 5 games above .500 going into the all-star break, including a 9 game winning streak in December.
The stat line below was on February 12th 2002 just after the all-star game, 5 days before his 39th birthday. His second best player was a Rip Hamilton with 2 whole seasons under his belt.

Yes, he lost his athleticism, but what made Jordan the goat was his fundamentals and mind. His athleticism was an important part of it, but not the sole part.
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Again some of you dudes been playing on the internet for decades. It's a different world on here and on many subjects is askew from whats actually going on in reality...

I wasn't online in the late 00s and I distinctly remember Kobe vs Bron debates. Yall nikkas so used to all this anonymous online shyt yall have no feel for what people actually talk like in real life. Analytics are a thing in arguments now to a degree. No one 12+ years ago (the late 00s is what this lying ass nikka said and that ended a dozen years ago) in the real world was making no fukking basketball arguments centered around analytics...

When the Kobe vs Bron shyt was on Bron defenders main go-to was that you could visually see he was a better basketball player than Kobe was at the same age, and supported that argument with how Bron played the game. Kobe defenders leaned on the postseason success and his cumulative body of work (to that point) because since they were 7 years apart in age, you couldn't argue that Kobe at the same age was as good as LeBron. I've pointed out the distinction between internet-consumed Kobe heads and real life ones many times before, in the real world the vast majority of Kobe heads in that debate were NOT arguing that Kobe was better at playing basketball than LeBron. Everybody and their mom saw LeBron coming and there was an acknowledgement of it even if you took the Kobe side of the debate...

Some of yall been online too long and don't know how to log off mentally, this goes way beyond just discussing sports on here...

You can stop throwing me in that category too, you've never seen me use stats as the chief support of LeBron because I dont need to. Like you and everyone else, I use stats to underscore whatever point I'm making, literally everyone on here will if it supports their point. Most Bron heads aint gotta point to the numbers because the actual work on the floor speaks for itself, any beef you nikkas have with statistical arguments is because they don't generally favor your guy if Bron is involved...

As it applies to today and the past several years, no one needs stats to support Bron over anyone. He's competing in a different lane, all the shyt these other dudes are trying to do, he's already done. He don't need anyone to defend his stats, he's already done the numbers thing and it speaks for itself...



Thats been disproved time and again on here...

Shyts on dudes for arguing sports on the internet by writing paragraphs arguing sports on the internet.

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From a pure standpoint measure of (who makes their team better) his only equal right now is Chris Paul and Bron is putting up elite stats. Who would you say is the best if not him?
To be honest I dont know who I would call the best right now, but I do know whoever that person is they have to take accountability for when their team loses....because the best player in world is gonna get all the credit when their team wins.

You cant wear the crown and then not take responsibility when the kingdom goes to shyt.

The seeds for the excuses are already being planted
 
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