Lebron disses Olajuwon.. Hakeem busts back "You're not in Jordan's league"

[Steezy]

Hakeem would be averaging 40 20 5 5 & 8

What would penny average

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Dream is one of my favs...but lets keep it real.He never reached the NBA finals when micheal Jordan was playing.And it took him 7 games to beat the knicks.

not even becuse of jordan though...hakeem was getting his shyt pushed in by 2nd tier hofs out west

 

[TheNig]

'keem stating facts.

But to play devil's advocate, how did LeBron diss him?

I don't think it was a diss. The picture was actually kinda cool as well. What LeBron posted was kinda in poor taste. Just be glad that you're a legend.

And if anyone says he doesn't have to becuz he's better than Dream that's cool and all but remember that Cheese Eyes always went out of his way to give Dream props.

 

[SubZero]

Passing, playmaking, vision, scoring, efficiency, three point shooting, defensive versatility, protecting the ball, and ability to run an offense.

So despite Hakeem's scoring prowess, he's still not as efficient or as good as Lebron while also not being anywhere near the passer he is.

Lebron was the worst 3-point shooter in the NBA last season, yet you think he's better shooter than Hakeem smh. If Hakeem had played in this era of positionless NBA, he'd be one of the better 3-point shooters because he was a good shooter.

When it comes to vision and playmaking abilities, Hakeem tops Lebron because he always kept his head up and he was willing passer with incredible vision. Not too many Players in the history of the NBA can throw the long one-handed 80 yards pass like Hakeem used to do.

Hakeem was also a better defender than Lebron will ever be. He's number 8 on all the all time list for steals despite being a big man and he damn near averaged double figures in blocks every night.

I'd say Lebron is above Hakeem right because he's the most dominant in his era but Hakeem would've owned Lebron every night if he played in this era, the same way he owned all the big men and Shaq in his era.

I'm a fan of Lebron but I'm being objective.

 

[Fani Willis fan]

Lebron was the worst 3-point shooter in the NBA last season, yet you think he's better shooter than Hakeem smh. If Hakeem had played in this era of positionless NBA, he'd be one of the better 3-point shooters because he was a good shooter.

When it comes to vision and playmaking abilities, Hakeem tops Lebron because he always kept his head up and he was willing passer with incredible vision. Not too many Players in the history of the NBA can throw the long one-handed 80 yards pass like Hakeem used to do.


I'm a fan of Lebron but I'm being objective.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Lebron was the worst 3-point shooter in the NBA last season, yet you think he's better shooter than Hakeem smh. If Hakeem had played in this era of positionless NBA, he'd be one of the better 3-point shooters because he was a good shooter.

no, hakeem wasn't a great shooter which you can see by his FT% and there is no thing to back up what you said about that the 3pt shooting

When it comes to vision and playmaking abilities, Hakeem tops Lebron because he always kept his head up and he was willing passer with incredible vision. Not too many Players in the history of the NBA can throw the long one-handed 80 yards pass like Hakeem used to do.

Hakeem was also a better defender than Lebron will ever be. He's number 8 on all the all time list for steals despite being a big man and he damn near averaged double figures in blocks every night.

too hard to compare vs perimeter player on defense

I'd say Lebron is above Hakeem right because he's the most dominant in his era but Hakeem would've owned Lebron every night if he played in this era, the same way he owned all the big men and Shaq in his era.

if Hakeem was so great why didn't it translate to playoff wins and more finals appearances?


And outside those two runs, he's got almost nothing. 11 out of the other 16 years, the Dream never made it out of the first round. 14 out of 16, he didn't make it past the second.

^^facts

 

[Jplaya2023]

What would penny average

I'n today's league?

 

[Steezy]

I'n today's league?

I'm going 35-10-12

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I'm going 35-10-12

 

[Jplaya2023]

I'm going 35-10-12

Not 35, he's 2 unselfish for that.

No reason why he couldn't give them 27-10-7 on 50,38,85 splits

 

[Loose]

What would Hakeem do in the Pace and Space version of today's NBA brehs?

He'd average like 35ppg, imagine all these good 3 shooters surrounded by him

 

[SubZero]

no, hakeem wasn't a great shooter which you can see by his FT% and there is no thing to back up what you said about that the 3pt shooting

too hard to compare vs perimeter player on defense

if Hakeem was so great why didn't it translate to playoff wins and more finals appearances?

And outside those two runs, he's got almost nothing. 11 out of the other 16 years, the Dream never made it out of the first round. 14 out of 16, he didn't make it past the second.

^^facts

But why was Lebron the worst 3pt shooter in the NBA last season? Hakeem had a baseline fadeaway jumper and that shows he's a decent shooter - the same can't be said about Bron.

Hakeem had the footwork to defend any player, hence the steals. But despite Lebron being a perimeter player, he doesn't have the number of steals Hakeem had. And he's not even close when it comes to rebounds and blocks. Number don't lie, breh. Midget ass fringe players, Barea and Terry, did numbers on Lebron and ran circles around him.

The fact the Hakeem won two chips with pedestrian support cast is all you need to know because that's something Lebron never did. He needed superstars to win chips.

Not taking anything away from Lebron but stop acting like Hakeem wasn't the most skilled big man to ever play in the NBA. He schooled everyone in his era.

 

[SubZero]

I'm going 35-10-12

Add 5steals and 6blocks to that.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

But why was Lebron the worst 3pt shooter in the NBA last season? Hakeem had a baseline fadeaway jumper and that shows he's a decent shooter - the same can't be said about Bron.

why was lebron only less than 3 season ago one of the best spot shooters in the leagueand shooting 40% from 3 on 2-3 tries per game?


Why Can LeBron James Shoot Three-Pointers All Of A Sudden?

Why Can LeBron James Shoot Three-Pointers All Of A Sudden?

He crushed the rest of the league in PER last season with a 31.7, just shy of his career high. He shot a ridiculous 56.5 percent from the field. He scored more points in the paint per game than anybody else in the league. He dished out more assists than most point guards. He registered a higher rebound rate than Marc Gasol and Robin Lopez. Defensively, he's tall, quick and strong enough to guard just about anyone in the league, and he almost did.

And if all that wasn't enough, consider this: He now wields one of the most potent jumpers in the league. Only Jose Calderon averaged more points per spot-up play than James, according to Synergy Sports.

Most efficient spot-up players, 2012-13 regular season(Min. 100 plays)

Player Plays Points PPP
Jose Calderon 187 281 1.50
LeBron James 143 195 1.36
Kyle Korver 224 301 1.34
Steve Nash 114 153 1.32
Stephen Curry 226 294 1.30


James' name pops up near the top of all the jump-shot leaderboards for last season. And that includes the unguarded catch-and-shoot category, in which he effectively shot 73.1 percent once you account for the added value of 3s. Only five players were more lethal with open shots. While he couldn't find his shot in the Finals until the very end, he ended up converting 37.5 percent of his 3s in the postseason, which is well above average. (For perspective, Kevin Durant shot 31.3 percent from deep in the playoffs.)

The best spot-up players last season ( stats) - RealGM

Hakeem had the footwork to defend any player, hence the steals. But despite Lebron being a perimeter player, he doesn't have the number of steals Hakeem had. And he's not even close when it comes to rebounds and blocks. Number don't lie, breh. Midget ass fringe players, Barea and Terry, did numbers on Lebron and ran circles around him.

these numbers and accomplishments shows who was really making that impact on the court..let me see you refute them


lebron is more accomplished with less seasons

lebron in the clutch

lebron impact dwarfs hakeems

VORP (value over replacement)

PER (player eff rating)

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LeBron James passes Michael Jordan as most valuable player in NBA history

Also arguably the most clutch player in NBA history. And yes, that list includes Michael Jordan.

James is now 4-2 all-time in Game 7s, including 2-0 in those must-win games during the NBA Finals. His game score from Sunday night — a metric created by John Hollinger to give a rough measure of a player’s productivity for a single game – was 23.1, the fifth-highest for a Game 7. He also has the third-highest game score for a Game 7 (32.5 in 2013). His performances in Games 5 and 6 — both elimination games for Cleveland — earned him game scores of 39.2 and 42.5, respectively, two of the top three performances ever recorded in the NBA Finals.

There have now been 13 games in which a player has recorded at least 20 points, 10 assists and 10 rebounds — James has five. Larry Bird and Magic Johnson are the only two players to have more than one. Charles Barkley, Tim Duncan, Jason Kidd and James Worthy have the others. Jordan has none.

James has also moved past Jordan in postseason value over replacement, a box score estimate of the points per 100 possessions that a player contributed above a replacement-level player. In other words, James, despite not winning as many championships as Jordan, is the most valuable playoff player of all time. It’s also worth noting that Jordan’s teammate, Scottie Pippen, appears on this all-time great list at No. 5. You have to scan to No. 12, Dwyane Wade, to find the best overall playoff performance by one of James’s teammates.

When you factor in regular season performance, James can now be considered the most valuable NBA player of all time.

LeBron James passes Michael Jordan as most valuable player in NBA history

LBJ make Hakeem look like Kobe in impact metrics

Hakeem

Hakeem Olajuwon Stats | Basketball-Reference.com


Value Over Replacement Player
Career NBA 77.1 (12th)
Career 77.1 (13th)


lebron

Value Over Replacement Player
Active 109.6 (1st)
Career NBA 109.6 (1st)
Career 109.6 (1st)

Hakeem Olajuwon Stats | Basketball-Reference.com

The fact the Hakeem won two chips with pedestrian support cast is all you need to know because that's something Lebron never did. He needed superstars to win chips.

hakeem didn't play with a pedestrian cast...Drexler is better than anyone lebron played with outside of wade

Not taking anything away from Lebron but stop acting like Hakeem wasn't the most skilled big man to ever play in the NBA. He schooled everyone in his era.

skill don't mean shyt w/o impact.

Hakeem had a 2-3 year elite run and outside of that he was playoff failure

 

[NYC Rebel]

Why are yall constantly drumming up fake ass beef?

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