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So Coli posters are teaching me that scheming and X and O's in basketball are irrelevant to winning 
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So Coli posters are teaching me that scheming and X and O's in basketball are irrelevant to winning
They would know, I'm sure. Have you seen the posting in here?
I don't want anyone to take what I said as coaching doesn't matter at all. It definitely does and San Antonio was playing beautiful basketball in their last two Finals. Pop adjusted and that entire team had a hive mind; everybody was on the same page.
San Antonio was more talented overall. Tony Parker was Second Team All-NBA; Duncan received more All-NBA votes than Wade or Bosh. Wade wasn't the same physically as he was two years prior. LeBron was LeBron but those other two weren't the same at that point. That's the unspoken reason why he bolted to go back to Cleveland. He knew it was over for that group.
Your line is tired breh.
Lebron averaged 17 a game vs/ Dallas
That is mind boggling. To put that in perspective his next lowest series average before or after was 22 a game when he was a pup with no J vs San Antonio
And what really hammers home the mental part is he shot 35% vs SA. Their defense was stifling. But against Dallas he shot 47%. 17 on 47%??So that tells you it wasn’t even their defense, he was not shooting; it was mental.
That was because that was the only series in his career when a team focused the zone entirely on him while he still had prime Wade and Bosh to dump the ball to. Bron shot much worse against other great defenses in the 2007 Finals, the 2008 ECSF, the 2015 ECSF and the 2015 Finals, but he still kept shooting in those series because he had no other choice, his teammates sucked. And in every case except Chicago, it ended in an L anyway. In Dallas, he had a better choice with elite teammates and so he made the higher-% play. What's the point of playing with good players if you're not going to defer to them when they have a better shot?
How the hell would it have helped the team for him to score 22ppg on 35% like he did against San Antonio in 2007? He HAD to keep shooting in that 2007 series because his teammates were ass, but that didn't get them the win and it would have been even worse if he had tried that in Dallas. When the Mavs were there zoning up to 4 or 5 guys at a time to cover LeBron's lanes, it made more sense to swing the ball to Wade and let him cook one-on-one than to try to score against three guys and jack up a low-% shot.
There's no doubt that the Mavs definitely got in Bron's head and affected his game, but they did that with brilliant scheming and defense:
1. changing the primary defender constantly
2. zoning off his driving and passing lanes with 2-3-4 help defenders at once
3. daring him to beat them from outside before he was confident in that shot
They were elite against every primary ballhandler in that postseason. 32yo Kobe and the defending champs got swept in the WCSF with Kobe averaging just 23ppg on 46% shooting (22.7% from three).....why didn't Kobe shoot more? That was his lowest scoring total in an L since the Detroit debacle. 22yo Westbrook in the next series averaged just 23.6ppg on 36% shooting and 20% from 3pt and the Thunder lost in five.....would LeBron have been better off putting up numbers like that?
The Dallas series is a perfect example of how much scheming matters. That Dallas defensive scheme didn't just work against LeBron, it worked against EVERY hall of fame primary ballhandler the Mavs faced.
This is partly true, but again, I think people are seeing the scheming and assuming its all talent.
Is 38yo limping Duncan still making 3rd-team All-NBA in 2015 without brilliant scheming?
Is Tony Parker really a 2nd-team All-NBA level talent over guys like Dame, Wall, Westbrook, Kyrie, Wade, Lowry, and Conley without playing in a superior system?
Is a young Kawhi who just 3 years earlier was averaging 14ppg for San Diego State going to be a Finals MVP without Pop's coaching?
Does a supporting cast of 36yo Manu, Patty Mills, Danny Green, Boris Diaw, and Tiago Splitter badly outplay a supporting cast of 38yo Ray, 34yo Rashard, Chalmers, Cole, and Birdman just because they're more talented, or because the schemes fit their skill sets better than Miami's schemes fit their cast?
Some people in this thread are saying, "It's always raw skill!" because the physical aspect of players playing is the only thing on the court they can see. They can't see the decisions made in the players' heads, they can't see the systems drawn up by the coaching staff, they can't see the preparation that goes into the game before gameday even starts. So the natural human instinct is solely to attribute the wins to the visible, physical motions of the players. But there's way more going on than just that.
Ray, Shane and Rashard retired right after that series. San Antonio's supporting cast was MUCH better. This can't even be debated.
I said coaching matters but talent generally wins out at the end of the day. I'm at the point where I think bad coaching has a greater effect than good coaching. There's a baseline of competence and when coaches fall under that bar (like Darvin Ham), I think it causes more harm than good coaching benefits a team, if that makes sense.
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How many 60 plus year olds have a podcast?Imagine a nikka doing a PODCAST, being considered a GOAT!
Dumb ass posting
Elim Garak
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Looks like I found this page archived in the wayback machine.
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EzekelRAGE
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He has the look about him where he one of the ones that says the slurs if you make him mad enough. Also looks like a tiki torcherLooks like I found this page archived in the wayback machine.
Edit: I see mike already said basically the same thing
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I gotta agree with regular p for 2014 in the finals. The Heat’s supporting cast was absolutely cooked at that point. The role players hadn’t been particularly good that year all season, which shouldn’t have been a shock considering their age. They were running the same offense they had the year before, but the role players simply hit the wall on top of Wade’s sharp decline from the end of the 2013 27 game win streak up through the 2014 playoffs. Everyone’s 3 point shooting declined (literally every player on the team who was shooting 3’s in 2012-13), they weren’t getting out on the break as much, and they simply didn’t have that extra gear they did the year before. It was especially noticeable on defense. They dropped off by 12 games from the year before with the same coaching staff. Battier, Haslem, & Rashard Lewis all played themselves in and out of the rotation, Allen got real streaky shooting the ball (25% from deep in January 2014), the birdman wasn’t quite as good as the year before, Norris Cole simply couldn’t shoot from anywhere on the court, and they ended up missing Mike Miller more than they expected to. While I don’t think Spo had a good finals, I don’t think any sort of scheming could’ve gotten them past the spurs with how they were playing.
Bad coaching I think definitely is easier to spot than good coaching too. Aside from Ham, Avery Johnson doubling Shaq in 2006 while letting Wade get single coverage. Scott Brooks not taking Kendrick Perkins off the floor in the 2012 finals is another. I think the most important thing a coach can do is find the 5 man lineups that work the best and get them as many minutes as he can.
This thread gettin nasty. I’m a Lebron fan, but please stop with this shyt. Dude is right, it was all mental that series was not about X’s and O’s
Lebron averaged 17 a game vs Dallas
That is mind boggling. To put that in perspective his next lowest series average before or after was 22 a game when he was a pup with no J vs San Antonio
And what really hammers home the mental part is he shot 35% vs SA. Their defense was stifling. But against Dallas he shot 47%. 17 on 47%??
And why that’s relevant it shows yall on some tryhard hypebeast shyt. Yall gassin anything they say
He had to see a sports therapist after 2011.
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All Lebron had to say was I played like shyt in the 2011 finals period. In hindsight he’s played great in every finals after that so no need to front.
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Why not do a podcast with someone who isn't a smug cac that likely used racist slurs in his time at Duke?
Are you under the impression that NBA players think JJ Redikk used racial slurs at Duke?
Literally your only evidence was a since-deleted picture of an email posted by an obscure gossip site which they said was provided to them by his ex-girlfriend, a woman with a history of filling false charges and attempting to scam multiple NBA players. And even in that picture, it was JJ's brother who supposedly used the n word in an email to her, not him.
I just doubt that NBA players would take allegations like seriously. He has 4 years playing at Duke and 15 years in the NBA which they most likely use to base their opinions of him on.
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LeBron has been in the league since 2003 and has made many friendships around the league but somehow the smug potentially/likely racist cac is the best one for the job. Ok.