LeBron and JJ Redikk teaming up for a new podcast

[Professor Emeritus]

people in here are tripping if they think "schemes" win over raw talent and skill

No one thinks that schemes alone win over raw talent and skill, as if some G-league crew could beat an all-star team if they just had better scheming.


But when two teams have talent, the one with the better schemes will win. And sometimes, even a team with less talent (like the 2004 Pistons or the 2011 Mavs) will win if the advantage in their superior scheming is larger than the disadvantage in their talent.

No one thought the 1980s Pistons were the superior "raw talent and skill" team until they used a particular type of defensive scheme that suffocated Jordan's Bulls and Bird's Celtics and then overcame Magic's Lakers.

The Spurs were never considered a "superior talent" team compared to the Shaq/Kobe Lakers or the Dirk/Nash Mavs or the Bron/Wade Heat, but their were a juggernaut for 15 years due to their top-level scheming.

The Warriors weren't a "superior talent" team in 2014, literally no one in the league thought that. But when they instituted completely different schemes as a constant passing/screening smallball offence and really intelligently run smallball defense to match, suddenly they're winning a title and then setting the single-season wins record.



And let's take it away from NBA titles for a moment. How often have you seen an international team destroy a more talented USA team because they were scheming better? How often do you see a lower-tier NBA team with mediocre talent overperform due to better coaching? Look at how many mid-majors with no-name reject recruits storm through the NCAA tournament while Kentucky with a bunch of blue chip talent flames out early every year.

you can tell who actually hoops and who just says talking points of shyt

the definition of talent and skill means ">>> better than you"
in a realistic sense, not fakkit goalpost moving...
even if you scheme to double or triple ... that opens the game for everyone else
in that Jimmy Vs Bucks example... they try to focus D on Jimmy and the rest of Miami has space

lol at starting with "you can tell who actually hoops" and then all of your examples of scheming are "double somebody".

 

[Juggalo Fred]

Yo have you ever seen the old episode of Law & Order where they shyt on Juggalos?

No but it sounds offensive lol

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

No but it sounds offensive lol

Imma look up what season and episode.

Dudes goes in talking about them.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Did Spo outcoach Bud last year? Maybe, but the reason Miami won is because Jimmy had an out of body experience for five games.

But does Butler have that "out of body experience" if he doesn't have the coaching to put him in that position? Plenty of guys have had great series without it going anywhere. And lets look at what the Heat have done outside of that series.

In the 2020 ECF, Jimmy only averaged 19-6-5 on 43% shooting, 16% from 3pt, and yet the Heat beat the Celtics anyway with Bam, Dragic, and Herro over Tatum, Brown, Kemba, Smart, and Hayward.

In the 2023 ECF, Jimmy only averaged 24-8-6 on 42% shooting and 35% from 3pt, but the Heat beat the Celtics anyway with the help of Caleb, Bam, and Gabe over Tatum, Brown, White, Smart, and Horford.


You can't claim that the scheming wasn't a huge reason that Heat made it to the Finals twice in the last four years.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

JJ Redikk was accused of being a racist a long time ago and personally I believe it. He looks like a smug racist cac to me. It's wild how people are so quick to give him a platform.

Got a link? I googled and I'm not finding it.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Got a link? I googled and I'm not finding it.

I just posted it.

 

[phillycavsfan]

Read the thread

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/jj-reddikk-using-the-n-word-and-calling-his-girl-a-sp-c.189740/

17 years ago? Back when everyone and their mama thought he was an a$$hole?

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

17 years ago? Back when everyone and their mama thought he was an a$$hole?

Has he proven otherwise?

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

No one thinks that schemes alone win over raw talent and skill, as if some G-league crew could beat an all-star team if they just had better scheming.


But when two teams have talent, the one with the better schemes will win. And sometimes, even a team with less talent (like the 2004 Pistons or the 2011 Mavs) will win if the advantage in their superior scheming is larger than the disadvantage in their talent.

No one thought the 1980s Pistons were the superior "raw talent and skill" team until they used a particular type of defensive scheme that suffocated Jordan's Bulls and Bird's Celtics and then overcame Magic's Lakers.

The Spurs were never considered a "superior talent" team compared to the Shaq/Kobe Lakers or the Dirk/Nash Mavs or the Bron/Wade Heat, but their were a juggernaut for 15 years due to their top-level scheming.

The Warriors weren't a "superior talent" team in 2014, literally no one in the league thought that. But when they instituted completely different schemes as a constant passing/screening smallball offence and really intelligently run smallball defense to match, suddenly they're winning a title and then setting the single-season wins record.



And let's take it away from NBA titles for a moment. How often have you seen an international team destroy a more talented USA team because they were scheming better? How often do you see a lower-tier NBA team with mediocre talent overperform due to better coaching? Look at how many mid-majors with no-name reject recruits storm through the NCAA tournament while Kentucky with a bunch of blue chip talent flames out early every year.







lol at starting with "you can tell who actually hoops" and then all of your examples of scheming are "double somebody".

Just look at how many mediocre small white dudes the pats had at receiver while much of Brady’s game was checkdown passes to said guys. That sort of success and production despite not a ton of talent at the skill position is aided heavily by coaching. Meanwhile look at the teams that gave them trouble in the postseason and how they consistently played tight physical coverage as opposed to most teams regularly giving an 8-12 yard cushion to the receivers.


Look at how badly the ravens defenses slipped after the losses of Rex Ryan and Chuck Pagano. Look at all the crazy stuff dikk Lebeau cooked up on defense in Pittsburgh. Look at how Rex used to coach the ravens defensive backs and linebackers to funnel the best receivers and tight ends in the direction of Ed Reed to discourage quarterbacks from throwing to them.

 

[phillycavsfan]

Has he proven otherwise?

Maybe not to you, I guess. If I judged people based on what they did decades ago then Mike Tyson would only be a rapist.

 

[High quality poster]

Corny ass podcast. Lebron and his top media shill drinking wine

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Maybe not to you, I guess. If I judged people based on what they did decades ago then Mike Tyson would only be a rapist.

No further comment. This is a wild sentence to me but you do you. I'm not listening to a smug racist cac talk hoops but go head.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I just posted it.

That thread links to a random gossip site called "Bossip" with broken links. It looks like they're saying that JJ's ex-girlfriend made accusations that his brother called her the n-word in an email, but then the site took down the supposed pictures of said email. She also accused JJ of using some other racial slur, but not an anti-Black slur.

Literally no other site, anywhere, posted this story. Lots of sites discuss the abortion story, but none of the others say anything about racial slurs. That same girl later sued Shaq for supposed harassment and stalking (case was thrown out of court), was accused by Kenyon Martin of stealing his credit cards and otherwise scamming him, and dated Delonte West.


Why would NBA players cancel association with JJ over a story from his rookie year where a girl with a history of scamming NBA stars accused JJ's brother of writing a racial slur, but the claim was so weak that only one gossip site even briefly covered it? If there's more evidence then show it, but if the only source is that gossip site then it's a nothingburger.

 

[duckbutta]

The problem with "high level" basketball talk is that more than any other sport, talent wins out at the end of the day. Did your stars outperform the other team's?

Sure, there's subtle things teams can do with defensive coverages but if a player is hitting tough shots, not much can be done.

Did Spo outcoach Bud last year? Maybe, but the reason Miami won is because Jimmy had an out of body experience for five games.

X's and O's didn't cost the Kings game seven against GS; Steph Curry going for 50 did.

9 times out of 10, it's as simple as that.

Meh not always true. In 2014 I don't know anybody who would say Tony Timmy and Manu at that point of their careers were individually better than Lebron, Wade, and Bosh at that point of their careers. But outside of maybe a quarter and a half out of 5 games the Spurs smoked the heat in record fashion in the finals. Primarily because Pop's X's and O's game was on point and Spo wasn't that level of coach yet.

Same thing when they beat Houston at home. Pop had just figured out O Antoni offense from top to bottom and from the second half of game 5 all through game 6 he just choked the life out of Houston and beat them in embarrassing fashion.

That Spurs Houston series is a perfect example of just how important X's and O's are. The spurs don't have Tony Parker, they don't have their mvp candidate Kawhi Leonard, but because Pop had checkmated O Antoni offense he was able to close them out, while they had an MVP candidate in James Harden...with Dejounte Murray and Johnathan fukking Simmons.

 

[10bandz]

This thread gettin nasty. I’m a Lebron fan, but please stop with this shyt. Dude is right, it was all mental that series was not about X’s and O’s

Lebron averaged 17 a game vs Dallas

That is mind boggling. To put that in perspective his next lowest series average before or after was 22 a game when he was a pup with no J vs San Antonio

And what really hammers home the mental part is he shot 35% vs SA. Their defense was stifling. But against Dallas he shot 47%. 17 on 47%?? So that tells you it wasn’t even their defense, he was not shooting; it was mental.

And why that’s relevant it shows yall on some tryhard hypebeast shyt. Yall gassin anything they say

Rhakim just skipped over this one